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Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:57 pm
by tc3500
Should I dispute the sale then? Is the added shield a big deal if I ever wanted to sell it?
Now that I know I would have to list it as such. I paid a little over $60 for it, its not alot
of money really (less than 1/2 a tank in my truck) but I don't like getting ripped off either.
The seller had quite a detailed description but maybe he had no idea. What to do......?
-----After a little more help from MillerBro's it looks like I paid about $25 too much for this
item, give or take. Since I like it and there is always a cost associated with learning new
things, I decided to book it in at $40 and write the other $25 off as 'Training expense'.
Thanks to MillerBro's for the advice and knowledge.
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:02 am
by johnnierotten
Dimitri...thanks for the info on my knife.

...I wouldn't have guessed it that old....a definite plus!!
Trevor...thats one of the nicest Imperial Scouts that I have ever seen.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:51 am
by philco
Miller Bro`s wrote:TC,
That is a WWII era engineers knife, 1941-44.
The shield has been added and is not original

MB is the shield the only thing you see that is wrong on that knife? If so, what would the correct shield for that knife be ?
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:31 am
by Miller Bro's
Phil,
Most of these with this style jigging did not even have a shield.
If it did it would have one stamped U.S.A. (for U.S. Army), or M.D. U.S.N., etc.
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:34 pm
by trail
This is one of Imperial's official Scout knives. Levine's Guide to Knives and Their Values, 2nd Ed. lists it as a "Whittler", BSA #1047 and shows that Camillus and Schrade also made knives to this pattern. It is not a true whittler as it doesn't have a split backspring. The knife is worn and the handle shows a lot of shrinkage and fading, but the construction is superior to any other Imperial in my small collection. The saber clip blade with a long pull and swedge give the knife some class. The whole thing is of heavy, solid construction, and the blades are still tight with good snap. I get the idea that being in direct competition with Schrade and Camillus for the Scout market brought out the best in Imperial (guessing this knife is from before the Imperial - Schrade merger).
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:31 am
by genewiseman
JR & Philco,
I appreciate the info info. on the Remington. Also, the only stamps on it are the Remington logo stamps on the master blade & the punch. What would you guess the value to be ? I am going to keep it regardless.
Thanks a lot.
Gene
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:40 pm
by johnnierotten
Got it in last night.........I like it a lot!!

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:15 pm
by tjmurphy
johnnierotten wrote:Got it in last night.........I like it a lot!!

I can understand that Johnnie. Who wouldn't like that one? Nice knife.
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:27 pm
by johnnierotten
Thanks Murph.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:50 am
by orvet
I was thinking of this thread and all you Scout collectors when I was at the OKCA show last weekend. Ed Holbrook had his display out along the back wall in one corner of the huge room the show was in, (over 400 tables, so it was a big room).
His display was about 8’ high (on tables) and 30’ long.
I took some pics, but don’t know how they turned out yet.
If they are good, I will share them when I get a chance to download them.
If you are a Scout collector, Ed’s display was worth the price of admission ($6) and worthy of at least a ½ days time to study all his knives, (well, the ones he had there).
His wife is a very nice lady and very knowledgeable of Scout knives.
I wish y’all could have been there!
It was
SHOCK & AWE of Scout knives!

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:13 pm
by zed6309
Im a bit confused on the pattern for these knives, ive been told that mine is a electricians model or might of been engineers

but there doesnt seem a difference in tools other than possibly the flat driver is longer ?

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:39 pm
by jerryd6818
You can call it scout knife, utility knife, camping knife or engineers knife, I would like to call it mine.
Poe-tay-toe / Poe-tah-toe * gas / petrol * trunk / boot

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:01 pm
by zed6309
jerryd6818 wrote:You can call it scout knife, utility knife, camping knife or engineers knife, I would like to call it mine.
Poe-tay-toe / Poe-tah-toe * gas / petrol * trunk / boot


so im going to call it a scout knife as like that

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:23 pm
by johnnierotten
Sounds great,Dale.

......wish that I could have been there.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:17 pm
by kamagong
Here's my one and only scout/utility/camping/engineers knife.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:41 pm
by philco
If you can only have one, that is a good one to have. Beautiful bone handles.

But that knife sure does look lonesome..............
Phil
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:28 am
by orvet
Here is a Schrade Cut Co I got at the OKCA show last weekend.
The cap-lifter/screwdriver is tang stamped as well.
Phil said it was an unofficial Scout knife.
Does anyone know anything else about it?
Thanks for any info,
Dale
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:37 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Hey Dale, nice one. Found it in Sargent's, they show it as model S9463. I think, 9=4-blades, 46=pattern# and 3= bone stag handles. I think the S prefix, designates it as an offical Scout knife. 1903-1948. I'm not the expert some here are, but hope this helps.
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:13 am
by bubba
Schrade Cut. Co. Junior Scout.
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:36 am
by orvet
Wow Bubba,
Nice etch on that Scout Jr.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:46 pm
by WelderBob
Those are some nice looking Schrade's Dale and Bubba.....
I've neglected my scout collecting for a while...fixing to change that, I hope.
A few of my latest find's...Buster Brown, Bridge Cutlery and Boker USA.
I think the Brown and Bridge are contract knives by Camillus and probably pre WWll.
The Boker...I'm thinking 1950's to 60's...am I on the right track....
Bob
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:02 pm
by philco
WelderBob I can't offer any more information on the Boker than you already have but I can brag on those great looking scout knives of yours just a little. If you are going to get back into scouts you are doing it right IMO. Very nice group you have gathered together.
Phil
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:33 pm
by zed6309
bubba wrote:Schrade Cut. Co. Junior Scout.

that is stunning welderbob

very clean

love the rest as well, you have a great scout collection there

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:26 pm
by robinetn
jerryd6818 wrote:You can call it scout knife, utility knife, camping knife or engineers knife, I would like to call it mine.
Poe-tay-toe / Poe-tah-toe * gas / petrol * trunk / boot

And all along I thought that this was just a Camp Knife !
Bob
Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:17 pm
by WelderBob
Thank's guys...nice example's seem to be harder to find these day's. I need to find a Schrade before you guys scoop them all up...
