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Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:14 pm
by wlf
No John, Tony said he would have given it to me, but it was given to him. Pretty sure from what I remember it is a wharnclff frame, but with less curves, chunkier. Not the usually elegant J Rodgers knife and different from a cut I have of a J Rodgers below. One of the beefiest knives of all knives I've ever held.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:21 pm
by Pile Driver
Lyle you have a great collection, I applaud you for being so dedicated to a niche pattern lol my collection is all over the map and I find myself wanting to try and focus my efforts in some way.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:16 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks for sharing the pic of the Rodgers Lyle

... Given I think I am seeing “Oil the Joints” I would guess this knife is +/- 1950?? Which prompts another question - what is the earliest FJ you have or when do you think the pattern came into existence??
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:17 pm
by JohnR
wlf wrote:No John, Tony said he would have given it to me, but it was given to him. Pretty sure from what I remember it is a wharnclff frame, but with less curves, chunkier. Not the usually elegant J Rodgers knife and different from a cut I have of a J Rodgers below. One of the beefiest knives of all knives I've ever held.
Yes, I can see the slight curve to it now, well at least you were able to get pictures of it.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:19 pm
by JohnR
Oh, and by the way that is a great Stag Wostenholm shown with it, gorgeous knife!
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:35 pm
by wlf
LongBlade wrote:Thanks for sharing the pic of the Rodgers Lyle

... Given I think I am seeing “Oil the Joints” I would guess this knife is +/- 1950?? Which prompts another question - what is the earliest FJ you have or when do you think the pattern came into existence??
It's definitely later Lee, but I don't know how late.It has a similitude of the typical English bone jigging I often refer to.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:59 pm
by 1967redrider
More gorgeous knife finds, Lyle.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:50 pm
by JohnR
Finally added something other than a Schrade or Wostenholm, a pretty nice Remington Farmers Jack, the tang stamp on both blades is just Remington UMC, no Made IN USA so I think that is early 1920's. Close to full blades and really nice bone.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 9:22 pm
by espn77
John, you buy great knives.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:00 pm
by LongBlade
John

... I only need to say one word - bone

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 pm
by JohnR
espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives.

Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:17 pm
by espn77
JohnR wrote:
Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853
Yours is a lot nicer than my example.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:00 am
by JohnR
LongBlade wrote:John

... I only need to say one word - bone

Thank you Lee, appreciate it.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:26 am
by peanut740
Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:19 am
by JohnR
peanut740 wrote:Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous.

Thanks Roger, I don't think Lyle will be too jealous, he has some pretty outstanding Remingtons.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:00 pm
by danno50
Beautiful find, John!

Old Remington bone is some of the best!
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:28 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives.

I second that.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:08 pm
by wlf
Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:39 pm
by JohnR
wlf wrote:Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.
Thanks Lyle and you are right, should have said Donna's

She seems to be claiming more of my new arrivals lately.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:19 pm
by wlf
Got a couple to add. This Southington is a smaller version like the Holley,Schatt and Morgan,and A Fields I have. I suspect these were early American versions of this pattern, although the bone on the larger framed Southington I have, seems to be an earlier example of jigging? I guess it could be they made two models ?
This knife looks to have never been used much ,if at all.The point on the pruning blade has been dulled off from opening and closing ,I would think.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:31 pm
by wlf
Here is a comparison from left to right of the large (4", common farmers jack size) Southington and the smaller (3 3/4") Southington,A Fields( made by Schatt and Morgan), Schatt and Morgan, and Holley.Compared to the Southington the Holley and Schatt look well used. I would have never thought the 3 3/4" Southington's pruning blade was as robust as it is. Pruning blades and spear blades will fool you unless you have a verifiable unused comparison.
On the other hand,the Holley is fuller than you think and the Schatt is near full, why....? The pruning blades were never that robust, as the Southington. They are a slimmer peach pruning type blade. Cuts in a 1915 Holley catalog and an old Schatt catalog shows the slimmer design.
I couldn't keep the tribe still.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:58 am
by LongBlade
Lyle - All are sweet knives but the Southington just above is a beauty

... Now that is right up my alley

... I'm not sure about dating those by the stamp

... I think you know better than me about dating it by the bone!! Either way early or late in Southington history an old nice knife

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Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:25 am
by JohnR
Another great find Lyle, Southington made high quality knives, very interesting that they made 2 size farmers jacks.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:39 am
by wlf
Another 4" unused Lockwood Bro. I think most of these came about years after WWII.Looks like this one got too close to a celluloid gasser.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:58 pm
by doglegg
I appreciate Old Cutler Colonials as being a quality knife at a reasonable price. I had been watching for a Farmers Jack and finally ran across this one on the bay. Some one buffed the blades it appears but it still fits my desires. It is also their model with the fancy file work. It's about 4 inches long.
Thanks for looking.