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Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 12:59 am
by knifegnome
Great looking knives everyone, I'm sure I have posted these before ,but I believe these were from the Naugatuck Valley..
L Bradley Knife Co
Wing & Co W. Goshen Ct
Northfield
Excelsior Box
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:15 am
by FRJ
Great knives knifegnome!
I have heard that there were knives made in Goshen but I have never seen one. Until now. And what a beauty
Ebenezer Wing & Co., 1868-1869. West Goshen Connecticut. .......... Per Goin's .......
I would say that is a rare bird. Congratulations.
Great post.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:24 am
by BWT
Very nice old and rare knifegnome, those are my kinda knives

Thanks for sharing those!!
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:36 am
by KAW
Neat knives & I really like the box!

... and a couple of brands I have not heard of before...

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:49 pm
by LongBlade
knifegnome wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:59 am
Great looking knives everyone, I'm sure I have posted these before ,but I believe these were from the Naugatuck Valley..
L Bradley Knife Co
Wing & Co W. Goshen Ct
Northfield
Excelsior Box
Nice group of knives Scott

... While Bradley knives are rare birds I think E Wing knives are even harder to find - I've only seen one Wing knife prior to yours but it was not for sale.....
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:46 pm
by LongBlade
Here's one of my fav knives from the Naugatuck Valley - American Shear and Knife Co - Hotchkissville - 3 & 5/16" closed and considered a Boys Knife..
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 4:17 pm
by BWT
Very nice Lee, it’s in such good condition

It’s been hard for me to find that maker, nice blades and bone on that one!
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 5:51 pm
by doglegg
Lee, for me that one is exceptional. Love the pattern and that knife in particular. Excellent.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:06 pm
by knifegnome
Great looking American Shear , I have been looking for one of those to go with the box I have.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:23 pm
by FRJ
Gorgeous full blades, Lee, and beautiful bone.
I have an American shear & Knife with similar colored bone.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:38 pm
by FRJ
Here's another American Shear & Knife.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:43 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Bill, doglegg, Scott and Joe

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knifegnome wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:06 pm
Great looking American Shear , I have been looking for one of those to go with the box I have.
Scott - What a coincidence - I've been looking for an American Shear & Knife box for the knife

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FRJ wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:23 pm
Gorgeous full blades, Lee, and beautiful bone.
I have an American shear & Knife with similar colored bone.
Great looking knife Joe

... Very similar dye on that bone for sure

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:14 pm
by danno50
Three beauties, John, especially that Southington barlow!
Great knives, knifegnome, and a beautiful box!
I can see why that American Shear & Knife boy's knife would be one of your favourites, Lee, lots to like about that one!
Two more good ones, Joe, especially that American Shear & Knife swayback!

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:55 pm
by LongBlade
Here's a few from Waterville which was no doubt Naugatuck Valley... All are engraved aluminum handles and one with just bolsters... remember aluminum was more expensive than gold and silver in the later 1800s so I assume these were some of their more expensive top of the line knives - maybe I was just lucky finding these 4 Waterville examples over the years using aluminum or Waterville had a good connection to having these handles made... I assume most cutleries sourced these handles from the same company (a handle company such as Salisbury as one example though never have seen these handles advertised in old cutlery journals or perhaps they were sourced from a "jeweler" of sorts such as sterling silver handles - if you look between companies with these handles they are very similar in engraving design with brass pins that were centered in the flowers/leaves of the design...
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 6:09 pm
by KAW
Lee &
Joe... those AS&K are very interesting looking knives!
and
Lee... those Watervilles have a real nice appeal. I only have a couple of Hudson Valley knives that have embossed aluminum bolsters.
The idea that the aluminum parts were probably outsource is a detail I had not considered, but makes very good sense in that those bolsters do have the same design despite being from different manufactures.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:15 pm
by BWT
Very nice Lee

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:24 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Ken and Bill

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Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 am
by FRJ
Beautiful knives, Lee. A pleasure to look at.
It seems to me the embellishment around the pins and perhaps the other decorative work on the covers would have been done after the knife was constructed. I can't imagine the cutler allowing the jeweler to determine pin placement.
LongBlade wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 5:55 pm
engraving design with brass pins that were centered in the flowers/leaves of the design...
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 pm
by Waukonda
This old soldier is on the beaten up side, but I wanted to show the stamp in this thread, can't be many of these out there.
If only......
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:08 pm
by LongBlade
Cool stamp on what was a sweet knife (before the snapped blade) but still is a nice "stamp" score Ike

... I have 2 Conn Cut knives but both are stamped Conn Cut Co Naugatuck - whereas yours is Thomaston... truth is these Conn Cut knives are rare enough that I am not sure if the Thomaston stamp was before or after Naugatuck which is the interesting detail, and having only seen maybe 3 of these company's knives in the past I am not sure if they were located in Thomaston before or after Naugatuck - I'll have to look it up as I am not that familiar with Conn Cut's specific historical details - except I believe Lyman Bradley ran the cutlery after his own and indeed Conn Cut is an early CT company

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Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:11 pm
by danno50
Great old knife, Ike!

Too bad about the broken blade, but as Lee said, great stamp.
Thanks Lee for the additional information.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:26 pm
by edge213
Waukonda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 pm
This old soldier is on the beaten up side, but I wanted to show the stamp in this thread, can't be many of these out there.
If only......
This one is a cool looking pattern.
Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:19 pm
by peanut740
Ike,I thought you'd like it.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:13 pm
by Waukonda
Thanks for the comments. It could have easily been discarded many years ago when the blade was snapped, but it wasn't. I look at it as an important piece of cutlery history to hang onto, regardless of blemishes.
peanut740 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:19 pm
Ike,I thought you'd like it.
You thought right, thanks Roger!
Explanation:This knife "somehow" ended up in the shipping package with some others that I purchased from Roger.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:05 pm
by LongBlade
Waukonda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 pm
This old soldier is on the beaten up side, but I wanted to show the stamp in this thread, can't be many of these out there.
If only......
danno50 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Great old knife, Ike!

Too bad about the broken blade, but as Lee said, great stamp.
Thanks Lee for the additional information.
Just as an fyi - it appears that Thomaston was stamped on some of the knives from 1880-1883 at the end of the company's existence (and Naugatuck from 1867-1880)... other note is though I thought I had read Lyman Bradley ran the company (he was no doubt noted to run Waterville at some point early on) it appears Homer Twitchell took the reins of the company (Twitchell knives are even more rare than Conn Cut

)... From reading an old resource it appears some knives have been found with one blade marked Thomaston and one marked Naugatuck.. maybe those were transition knives or some other company (maybe Thomaston) made some blades for them... knives with blades showing 2 different stamps is not all that unusual back in those days for many reasons and in fact though often one may be suspicious they are cobbled they are in fact original knives in many cases (and that is where "reading" a knife becomes more important

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