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need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:30 pm
by ROOSTER
just acquired a buck creek knife with ku klux klan, an open bible, the words "hand made" and #93 etched on blade, has brass pic of klan member/gown set in handle. was told only 188 were made. any info would be appreciated...

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:15 am
by Owd Wullie
It was probably some type of a contract knife. Buck Creek made lots of knives for different organisations in the 80's and 90's.

I have one made for a coal hauling company. The company is still in business and I talked to the owner who remembered buying them for his employees back in the early 90's.

As for the KKK connection? I'd be wary of anything marked with that. Several years ago I ended up with a brass belt buckle that was very nicely detailed with the KKK stuff. After a LOT of research, it was determined to have been a phony that was made up to sell. I sold it to a guy that would NOT believe it wasn't the real deal and he promptly quadrupled the price and was still trying to pass it off as real KKK stuff. I'm sure he found a sucker for it eventually.

Not saying yours is not what it is, just relating a past experience.

Can you post some detailed pics of it?

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:17 am
by ROOSTER
will try to add a couple pics of an identical knife another member found in az..... the one i have is identical except mine is #93, the one in pic is #92

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:38 am
by Umcknifeguy
New York Knife Co made a waterfall handled pen knife for kkk. It had an image of man in th gown on front handle. I only seen one and believe they go for about $100. Interesting little knife.

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:33 am
by RobesonsRme.com
I cannot speak to Buck Creek, but I can tell you for sure that Jim Parker had that knife and a black handled Barlow with the same shield on his tables by the boxes back in the early 1990's. And, I do not mean boxes that held a half dozen knives. I mean boxes that held twenty of more knives each. I do not know how the tangs were marked on those knives, but they were German made.

Given Parker's connection with certain German manufacturers, I'd be very skeptical of that "only 188 made" claim.

As to the KKK collectibilty factor: to each his own.

Charlie Noyes

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:51 am
by robinetn
The #'s 92 and 93 mean that the knives were issued in 1992 & 1993 . I sold my last one for $100 to another dealer who promptly sold it for $150 .

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:48 pm
by rangerbluedog
One sees the most unusual knives here... ::smirk::

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:16 pm
by ROOSTER
thanks for the replies and observations, keep 'em coming... noticing a pattern..., the guys in "the heart of dixie" and surrounding states seem to have had some knowledge of this knife. i bought it in north 'Bama, knives must have been ordered/ purchased by someone/ group in that region??

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:26 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
The knives were most likely imported by James Parker (now deceased) of Chattanooga, TN. I would not be surprised to learn that his son, Buzz, still has some.
Charlie Noyes

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:31 pm
by knife7knut
I have had 2 different Invisible empire knives.One was a 3 blade stockman with white scales and an etched master blade with gold wash depictingsomeone named Wilkinson who at the time was the Grand Dragon(or whatever they call it).It was made by Hen&Rooster if I recall and had some rusting on the blades.I gave it to my brother who appreciated more than I did.
Recently someone gave me a 3 blade stockman with black scales that was made by Case and supposedly sold through SMKW.The story I got was they purchased the knives from Case and then re-scaled them.From what I gather Case wasn't too thrilled with that.I was going to post a picture of it but it spirited away somewhere that is eluding me at the moment.

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:36 pm
by Classic Case
Here's an old ad, from a PKCS catalog. (1995)

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:12 am
by Aimus Moses
I made a trade one several knives as a lot once and ended up with a Fightin Rooster 3 blade stockman with pearl handles that had it's blades etched with that KKK Grand Wizard bull hockey stuff. After researching the knife some I found that the knife wasn't made in Germany like all the other Fightin Rooster knives, it was made in Japan but not marked as such. It had nice pearl handles but the blade snap and the fit & finish of the knife was not very good by any standards, much less Fightin Rooster brand. I have a African -American friend that's a police officer and a volunteer fireman that I gave it to. He got a laugh out of it and said he was going to carry it and show it to any skin heads that he may arrest and say that he's secretly in the Klan but working undercover as a cop. I said if they don't believe you show them your Wallace for President campaign card that you carry in your wallet. I guess Forrest Gump's Momma was right, stupid is as stupid does.

Aimus

Re: need info on buck creek swing guard "kkk" knife

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:03 am
by ROOSTER
cool old ad....thanks for the info all...not sure about the "stupid is as stupid does" comment, think i'll hang on to knife awhile, good conversation piece :wink: