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Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:57 pm
by singin46
Yep, this was actually sent by the White House!
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/03/ ... rtial-law/

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:06 pm
by tjmurphy
Well there ya go!! Declare martial law, cancel elections, and become king by default. Wouldn't surprize me a bit. I just wish that he would eat s**t and die, and his ugly ol' lady too!!

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:11 pm
by singin46
Yes, we are in real trouble here!

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:09 pm
by orvet
We will all be hauled to FEMA camps, you know the ones they were hiring staff for a couple months ago.
I expect they will take veterans and Christians first, then just anyone that disagrees with them.
Welcome to the Gulag! ::dang::

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:12 pm
by singin46
Yeah, you thought the airport was bad, we ain't seen nothin yet folks.

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:54 pm
by Miller Bro's
http://www.december212012.com/

Not to worry, only 9 more months left ::paranoid::

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:05 pm
by singin46
LOL, oh yeah, I forgot. ::suspense::

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:18 pm
by jerryd6818
As much as I dislike Stinky (B.O.) and want to see him out of office, I dislike propaganda more and the Internet is the propaganda machine of the 21st Century. I don't know Drew Zahn or anything about him other than what you read here but I had read something similar yesterday that was written by someone totally unrelated so take this as you will and assign relevance to your liking.
J.D.


By: Drew Zahn
Drew Zahn is a former pastor who cut his editing teeth as a member of the award-winning staff of Leadership, Christianity Today's professional journal for church leaders. He is the editor of seven books, including Movie-Based Illustrations for Preaching & Teaching, which sparked his ongoing love affair with film and his weekly WND column, "Popcorn and a (world)view."
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/executive-or ... at_orig=us



But are the cries of martial law and expanding executive power justified?

No, says William A. Jacobson, associate clinical professor at Cornell Law School.

“If someone wants to make the argument that this is an expansion of presidential powers, then do so based on actual language,” warns Jacobson. “There is enough that Obama actually does wrong without creating claims which do not hold up to scrutiny.”

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As it turns out, Obama’s executive order is nearly identical to EO 12919, issued by President Clinton on June 7, 1994, which itself was an amendment to EO 10789, issued in 1958 by President Eisenhower, and which in fact, was later amended by EO 13286, issued in 2003 by George W. Bush.

Obama’s executive order specifically assigns “executive departments and agencies responsible for plans and programs related to national defense” to do five things:

•“identify” requirements for emergencies;
•“assess” the capability of the country’s industrial and technological base;
•“be prepared” to ensure the availability of critical resources in time of national threat;
•“improve the efficiency” of the industrial base to support national defense;
•“foster cooperation” between commercial and defense sectors.
Later provisions in the order establish the protocol for government agencies to purchase equipment needed in times of national emergency and even make loans to ensure the availability of that equipment.

Despite the vague nature of the functions, none mention anything about martial law or seizing private property. The five functions are also identical to those identified in Clinton’s EO 12919.

So why did Obama issue the order at all?

A side-by-side analysis of Obama’s order compared to Clinton’s, conducted by Ed Morrissey of HotAir.com, reveals Obama’s order is essentially just an update to reflect changes in government agency structure.

“If one takes a look at EO 12919, the big change is in the cabinet itself,” Morrissey writes. “In 1994, we didn't have a Department of Homeland Security, for instance, and some of these functions would naturally fall to DHS. In EO 12919, the FEMA director had those responsibilities, and the biggest change between the two is the removal of several references to FEMA (10 in all). Otherwise, there aren't a lot of changes between the two EOs, which looks mainly like boilerplate.

“I’m not ruling out the possibility that this is more than it seems,” adds Jacobson, “but unless and until someone [demonstrates any expansion of powers in the order], I’ll consider this to be routine.”

“The timing of this release might have looked a little strange,” Morrissey concludes, “but this is really nothing to worry about at all.”

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:23 am
by singin46
Well that's fine but I'm very concerned, not about whether or not this man's article is legit but what Obama is cooking up that we have no idea of yet.

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:11 am
by jerryd6818
::shrug:: I took it to mean Stinky's doing nothing more than other Presidents have done before him. I hope I'm not wrong. He's done so much that leads us to believe he has ulterior motives for everything he does, it makes it difficult to take anything at face value. Keep the faith and vote in November.

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:37 am
by orvet
To me the big issue is the man behind the orders & whether I trust him or not.

When Bush signed the Patriot Act I was not really worried about what he would do with the powers given to himself, I was extremely concerned about the potential for abuse by his successors.

I was not a fan of President Bush but I always felt he had the best interests of America in his heart.
Though I often disagreed with him, I was confident that he would not do anything to deliberately hurt the USA. I do not have that same confidence in the current occupant of the Oval Office.

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:36 pm
by glenn
::uc:: ::uc:: ::uc:: ::uc:: ::uc:: ::uc:: ::uc::

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:18 pm
by singin46
I hear ya Dale, he was not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I do believe he at least had the American belief system in tact. The one we have now wants to remove all
of what made our country great.

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:36 pm
by tjmurphy

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:13 pm
by tjmurphy
Something interesting from Bill Maher

http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartI ... 6083143711

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:15 pm
by singin46
The reality is this, there will always be lazy people in this country that don't want anything but a handout.
This is not mutually exclusive to the lower 48 either. Lazy people are everywhere, If you want the real dream that this country has to offer, you must work and work HARD! That means not just doing what's expected but going beyond that. I didn't get where I am today by just doing what was expected. That goes for any job, any color you are! The one easy question is this, HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT? Those who have desire, have drive. Those who don't have the desire, get nothing or what's left over. Whenever I hear someone talking smack about look where you live, look what you have. I generally don't listen because if they really wanted it, they would spend less time talking smack and more time achieving something for their family. There is no excuse for not succeeding in this country. Immigrants come here everyday and do just that. SUCCEED! Stupid and lazy is no way to go through life.
Sermon over!

Re: Here's a New Order Sent Out Friday!

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:38 pm
by gringo
ot some people need serious medication.

please learn to comprend what you read.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... eparedness

veterans and christians first? ::skeptic::

search of all packages and containers in suspect automobiles...1981.{ reagan} http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point ... ARCHES.pdf
no knock entry for police...1981{reagan}
searching students and their lockers.{reagan}
http://www.youthrights.org/research/lib ... c-schools/
Patriot act...g w bush
http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/

seems the biggest whiners are the ones who supported the assualt on the rights of us citizens.
that is the right wing agenda...just like any 5th grader...you do something, then blame who you did the nasty thing too.