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Better start beefing up those new Ford Mustangs!!!
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:57 pm
by Roger - 50/2050
Howdy Boys,
Anybody seen these newly reborn Chevrolet Super Sport Camaros yet?
I like em a lot, much better styling than the new Ford Mustang! In this new Super Sport is one bad Big block with a 5.2 L, I'M wondering what the 1/4 mile ET is?
"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050
camero
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:24 am
by Mossdancer
Hi Roger:
I haven't been involved with drags since the 50's. What kind of H/P is this rated with not including turbo boost. Even with factory speed tuning and computer assist I dont see how a 307ci could exceed what maybe 370 H/P
if that is correct then it should be capable of 125-145 in mid elevens. In 58 with then technology that hp just stated might have been able to turn 106-115 in mid 13's. A real hotshot might have a high 12. Thats in a stocker not an altered.
Okay it's time to tell me how out of touch I am with reality. As a foot note I saw Don Garlits during his first year in a dragster. That was a hoot.
wb
Nice Car
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:35 am
by BrokenCamillus
What are the CIs on that engine? I'm sure it's not even close to 500CI.
I know they're doing miracles with little motors these days, but there's no substitute for raw BIG BLOCK Power.
Who knows what 5.2L means anyway.

When are we going to get rid of this metric crap? I mean sure it sounds good to say my bike is a 500, but that's CCs (Cubic Centimeters) and everyone knows that a 900 is a medium sized bike. Hey, I enjoy lower gas mileage and I ride alone anyway. Who knows what I'll have next year.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:35 am
by mumblypeg
That 5.2L is going to be real close to the old 327ci. I didn't do any math, but just guessing that a 5.0 is Ford's 302ci, and 5.7 is Chevy's old 350ci, I'd say 327 ci.
But you're right BC, it's hard to beat a big block.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:11 am
by Bryan
I love the look of the new Mustang, but this Corvette looks out of this world!

I wish I could take one for a test drive.
Bryan
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:58 am
by justold52
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:35 pm
by hogwild
5.2L is a small block. But by todays standards maybe it is a BB.
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:37 pm
by El Lobo
As an old street rodder, all this conversion stuff muddles my, fried from the '60s, brain. Sooooo, I thought anyone like me might enjoy this tool...
http://www.metric-conversions.org/volum ... inches.htm
Carry on!
Bill
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:23 pm
by Hukk
Ah yes, back in the 70's. Back in 75, I had a 1967 Mustang fastback GT with a stock 390 which I blew up in about a month. After some search I managed to locate one of Carroll Shelby's 429 super cobra jet, 4 speed transmission, and a drag package 4.30:1 rear axle. We rebuilt it and not much was left that was stock. Tight fit, custom headers!

OK one of my extreme sport moments. We put her on a small dyno and it buried the dyno at 600 hp at only 2700 rpm. Next test was at Sears Point raceway on Wednesday drag night, I got one run at 10.19 in the 1/4 before track officials determined I did not have enough saftey gear (just seat belt). My buddy ran a 10.52 against me in a highly modified Dodge 340 magnum that he picked up from a wrecking yard for $500.00. SHEEESH, I paid way more than that and he had it in an old green Dodge Dart (old P.G.&E. company car). He ran the engine just as he bought it, lucky #@*^!
Downside, I had to put in an extra gas tank, took 32 gallons of gas to travel 220 miles, the frame was bent badly when I sold it. Fun Times!

Old Times
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:33 pm
by Mossdancer
Hey Hukk:
I suppose the safety requirments were okay, but they sure stopped the old run what you brung class. The fatal year +or - was 1963 when they started requiring a scatter shield over the transmission. Not many people could afford to have it installed or the know how to do it themselves. I think that was my last year with the big iron.
wb
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:53 pm
by johnnierotten
I'm a MOPAR Man myself!!

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:12 pm
by CCBill
A liter figures out to about 60 cubic inches. A 5.0 Mustang is called a 302, a 5.7 Chevy is called a 350. A 5.2 would be about 312 cubic inches. Even though it doesn't exactly add up, that's what they use.
I co-built and drove an old AA/GS dragster, starting in 1963, when I was only 15. A friend, Gid Brownd and I built it out of used and donated parts. Established drivers such as Eddie Hill, Bobby Langley, Peters and Frank and several others would give us their old parts, trying to get us into the game. We never could run with the "Big Dawgs", but we won a little money, had a lot of fun and met a lot of GREAT people. We built a mid-7 second car that would consistently run around 180, for about $4,000. About the time we started having a very good time the NHRA outlawed the Gas Dragster class and we couldn't afford to step up to nitro, but it was fun while it lasted.
...CCBill...
Re: Old Times
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:59 am
by Hukk
Mossdancer wrote:Hey Hukk:
I suppose the safety requirments were okay, but they sure stopped the old run what you brung class. The fatal year +or - was 1963 when they started requiring a scatter shield over the transmission. Not many people could afford to have it installed or the know how to do it themselves. I think that was my last year with the big iron.
wb
I had a hunch it would be fast

afterall it buried the dyno while just at a fast idle really. They said I needed a roll bar, scatter shield and a couple other things. I wonder if I could have gone under 10.00 with another run. The funny thing is that this Mustang was street legal, I drove it to the track and back home.
My buddy John, he had a real sleeper, just that ugly old Dart with a 340 Magnum (6pack) and got a 10.52 and he spent less than $1000 for everything. Sweet engine for $500, at 9k it just hummed.

I spent a bit more than that.
