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Genearly speaking

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:07 pm
by Bacon Lover
Were Gen Patraeus and his biographer engaged in "gland to gland" combat? Just askin'

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:12 pm
by MITCH RAPP
8) The Best Part of this whole Affair, is the Title of the Book! "All In" :mrgreen:

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:15 pm
by Bacon Lover
MITCH RAPP wrote:8) The Best Part of this whole Affair, is the Title of the Book! "All In" :mrgreen:
::dang:: ::dang:: ::dang:: True that!

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:25 pm
by MikeEngland
::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:35 am
by CobraBill
He was thinking too much with his privates. ::smirk::

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:42 am
by tjmurphy
Sorry, got to break the chain of humor, but, I am having a hard time understanding what it was that he did that was SO bad. I'm not saying that infidelity is OK because it's not. The two biggest whore-mongers as presidents in my life-time have been John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton and no one, including their administrations, found anything wrong with it, to the point of firing them. There's a hell of a lot more to it than just an extra-marital affair. Just sayin'............!

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:58 am
by Old Hunter
TJ, I had admired GEN Petraeus, considered him to be among the very top of the Army's senior leaders, and am very disappointed. What he did that is so bad was have an affair - a bad thing for anyone, but worse for a man in his position. When you have the highest security clearance in the land you have to be above reproach - he compromised himself and more than anything he has put a black mark on himself, the CIA, the US Government, the US Army and the USMA (Duty, Honor, Country). He hid what he was doing from the Commander in Chief (I won't get into what I think of the current one), but the director of the CIA is an appointee of the POTUS and is responsible for his conduct while he serves. It is very disappointing; when you accept national level positions and are entrusted with the security of the USA you simply must remain above reproach - there is no other way, and he knew that and has known that since his West Point days. That is why members of the Armed Forces, and especially high ranking officers, normally have more respect from the public than political leaders - the high standards they adhere to - the General has broken faith with those ideas and has hurt himself and the institutions he stood for. It is simply sad. In addition it appears that LTC Broadwell has knowledge far beyond her level of "need to know" (which is in addition to the level of your security clearance) - I think criminal charges could possibly result. OH

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:45 pm
by tjmurphy
I agree with all you say, but the problem I'm having is why his affair is any worse than those commited by JFK and BC? The president surely has a security clearance higher than anyone else.

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:17 pm
by Bacon Lover
tjmurphy wrote:Sorry, got to break the chain of humor, but, I am having a hard time understanding what it was that he did that was SO bad. I'm not saying that infidelity is OK because it's not. The two biggest whore-mongers as presidents in my life-time have been John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton and no one, including their administrations, found anything wrong with it, to the point of firing them. There's a hell of a lot more to it than just an extra-marital affair. Just sayin'............!
I gotta agree with ya here TJ. JFK and Bill were pretty randy to say the least. As for the General, gorsh a horny soldier, go figure.

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:28 pm
by MikeEngland
I certainly think that we have better uses for our top military officials than tabloid fodder. A lot of very important things are getting pushed aside so that the real housewives and muckrakers can get their fix of sordid trash. But hey, it's only important if the media says so, right?

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:39 pm
by Cutty
Well said Mike ::tu::
+1

Re: Generally speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:43 pm
by jerryd6818
Who gives a rip? It's just a diversion from the more pressing issues that face this country and a segment of our citizens eat it up like the slop it is.


Edit: Mike -- I see you beat me to it. More eloquently though, I see. Good post my friend.

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:14 pm
by Bacon Lover
MikeEngland wrote:I certainly think that we have better uses for our top military officials than tabloid fodder. A lot of very important things are getting pushed aside so that the real housewives and muckrakers can get their fix of sordid trash. But hey, it's only important if the media says so, right?
Well said, Mike. ::tu::

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:32 pm
by Old Hunter
tjmurphy wrote:I agree with all you say, but the problem I'm having is why his affair is any worse than those commited by JFK and BC? The president surely has a security clearance higher than anyone else.

Morally you are right. But the POTUS is granted their security clearance by the people (Constitution). By military rules and regulations neither Bill Clinton nor Barak Obama would have ever been granted the lowest level security clearance (Confidential); Clinton due to his unexplained trip to Moscow, USSR as a student in England (and other associations) and Obama due to many, many unsettling issues (i.e., questions on his citizenship, associations with know subversives, etc.), however the people of the USA "voted' these two men their clearances and access. Everyone else; Soldiers, civilian government employees, government contractors, and political appointees must meet the standards as issued by the military, the CIA or the FBI, etc., as applicable to receive or keep their clearance. OH

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:41 pm
by griz1200
I have a hard time believing that this is the reason he was 'fired'.

Griz

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:24 pm
by Cutty
If need be things can be discounted, swept under the rug and people can be silenced and or discredited. Especially at this level. Makes me wonder what else is going on other than diverting attention from the benghazi investigation and and all of the other pressing issues ::shrug:: Will they be the scape goat for benghazi or something else yet to be brought to light? It stands to reason and would give potus and others a pass. ::disgust::

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:41 pm
by Bacon Lover
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Just a reminder here guys. This was started as a comedic thread.

Mrs. Rabinowitz is in front of a judge for stealing a can of pears. How many pears were in the can, the judge asks.
Six, she sez. OK that's it, you are going to jail for six days....................She also stole a can of peas pipes in Mr. Robinowitz.

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:42 pm
by Old Hunter
Comedic? Okay, I heard the prequel to the current book (All In) is titled, "Just the Tip"! ::dang:: ::dang::

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:49 pm
by MITCH RAPP
8) ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

And the Sequel will be Titled " My Wife Cut It Off! " :mrgreen:

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:57 pm
by gringo
MikeEngland wrote:I certainly think that we have better uses for our top military officials than tabloid fodder. A lot of very important things are getting pushed aside so that the real housewives and muckrakers can get their fix of sordid trash. But hey, it's only important if the media says so, right?

well...since american's have never liked professional military personal...they have been a target of negative opinion...
go read how they treated custer, grant...the list is as long as our heros.
http://infousa.state.gov/government/ove ... per12.html
"
The Founders had a genuine fear of the abuse of military power, a concern that a strong executive could, over time, degrade into dictatorship or demagoguery. History had taught them that this abuse was not infrequent. Thus, they believed it was necessary to demonstrate that under the new Constitution the military would be subject to civilian authority in order to protect democracy. In Federalist No.28, Alexander Hamilton wrote,

Independent of all other reasonings upon the subject, it is a full answer to those who require a more peremptory provision against military establishments in times of peace to say that the whole power of the proposed government is to be in the hands of the representatives of the people. This is the essential, and, after all, the only efficacious security for the rights and privileges of the people which is attainable in civil society"...
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2007/05/2635198
though...i find no interest in others sexual exploits...unless they include me.

Re: Genearly speaking

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:01 pm
by Bacon Lover
MITCH RAPP wrote:8) ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

And the Sequel will be Titled " My Wife Cut It Off! " :mrgreen:
Good ones guys. ::tu:: ::ds:: ::tu::

I understand their fav. position was her standing on her head, if he could not get it up he could always drop it in.

Too crude? :shock: I mite be a little over the top here.
OK, so a small guy walks into a psychiatrists office and asks if he treats Dwarves. Sure sez he, you'll just have to be a little patient.