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Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:25 am
by Shearer
I purchased this old Schrade Cut Co scout utility knife of Ebay.
I have not received the knife yet.
I have tried to find a pattern number for the knife.The only knife I found with a similar pattern is a Case 6445.
Any information please.
Re: Schrade Cut CO
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:27 pm
by orvet
Grant,
Is should be in the E catalog or one of the supplements.
Here is the link to a PDF of the E catalog:
http://collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Cata ... talogs.pdf
Here is the page with the other supplements:
http://collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Catalogs/index.htm
Re: Schrade Cut CO
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:04 pm
by Shearer
Dale I had a look at the catalogs before I posted and could not find it .i looked up EBay for scout knifes and the only one that came near the same pattern was a Case 6445
Did Schrade make knives for Case.
I will post more pictures when the knife arrives.
Grant
Re: Schrade Cut CO
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:31 am
by orvet
It is worth noting that the Schrade "E" catalog & supplements are not exhaustive.
There were patterns made that do not appear in the old catalogs and there were no doubt variations of patterns that did not appear in the catalogs just as in the Schrade & Schrade Walden days.
It is my understanding the "E" catalog was just a reprint of some of the more popular Schrade Cut Co knives. There were many patterns left out. Eric, Cal or Hal may be able to speak more directly to that.
Shearer wrote: only one that came near the same pattern was a Case 6445
Did Schrade make knives for Case.
I doubt that Schrade Cut Co made that knife for Case., but someone expert in Case may know for sure.
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:41 am
by ea42
Definitely not the original handles, not sure about that blade configuration either, might be cobbled together.
Eric
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:02 am
by Shearer
Here a picture of one with bone handles of the net.The blade configuration is right.
ea42 wrote:Definitely not the original handles, not sure about that blade configuration either, might be cobbled together.
Eric
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:13 am
by tendots
Grant,looks as if the handles were glued on,replacement???Regards Gus.
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:35 am
by Shearer
tendots wrote:Grant,looks as if the handles were glued on,replacement???Regards Gus.
I think the handles are wrong. I will know for sure when it arrives.I only paid $13 posted to Australia and the postage is about $12.50.I was trying to find a model number ,all i know is that it starts with a 9.
Grant
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:23 am
by ea42
Grant, could be you're right, but I've never seen a Schrade scout knife (or any Schrade for that matter) with that push through opener before. Doesn't mean it never happened though.
Eric
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:54 am
by thawk
Here is another example from an old picture Charlie C showed years ago. I'll wager he still has the knife.
S9463 and 9463 were the pattern numbers in the 1926 with the a more modern can opener
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:49 am
by Shearer
thawk. Thanks for the information.
There is one on ebay with a damaged handle.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/oLD-Vintage-New ... 1c3368218f
The earliest price list with the model numbers I found on the Collectors of Schrade is 1932.
http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/ ... CELIST.pdf
Grant
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:37 pm
by tongueriver
Here is another example. The handles are either opaque black bone or a man-made material; I haven't decided:

Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:46 pm
by ea42
Well there you have it, I stand totally corrected!! Thanks for the pics guys, and sorry for the mis-information Grant
Eric
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:01 am
by thawk
tongueriver wrote:Here is another example. The handles are either opaque black bone or a man-made material; I haven't decided:
Nice Calvin. That is a heck of a spear blade.

Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:54 pm
by Miller Bro's
tongueriver wrote:Here is another example. The handles are either opaque black bone or a man-made material; I haven't decided:
They look like bone to me
What is etched on the master blade?
I can`t quite make it out

Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:11 am
by tongueriver
[quote="Miller Bro`s
What is etched on the master blade?
I can`t quite make it out

[/quote]
I am afraid I have been unable to read it either; I think there may be "SCHRADE," and possibly something with "OUT," and possibly something with "ING."
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:43 am
by Shearer
I received the knife I asked about .It had handles made from some very soft timber that was glued on.I decide I would put bone handles on it and I did not want to pull the knife apart.Seeing I was not going to use it I glued the bone handles on.The bone came from my farm .
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:44 am
by orvet
You got good color on the bone and a decent jigging pattern!
What did you dye the bone with & how did you jig it?
I am impressed, pretty soon you will be customizing knives!

Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:16 am
by Shearer
It bit of a story how I got the color.I soaked the bone in Permangate of Potash (postasium permanate ) my wife had around the house.I put the handles on an did not like the shape .When I sandered the handles in to the shape I liked I had some white bone .So I put the whole knife in the dye ( It took a bit of cleaning ).I think the color came from the the dye plus a bit of rust.

I jiggered the bone using a small drill .The grove in one handle was already in the bone so I left it.
Dale I am slowly learning from my mistakes .
Grant
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:01 am
by orvet
Shearer wrote:Dale I am slowly learning from my mistakes .
Grant
That is the way we all do unless you are one of the few lucky enough to work in a cutlery factory, or have someone to mentor you.
I thought the color looked like PP on that bone.
When you get ready to tackle a full on rebuild you can pin the handles and you can get a real good fit.
They are much easier to re-handle when they are apart!

Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:43 am
by jerryd6818
You did pretty good for what you had to work with and the amount of experience you have. It'll make a decent carry knife.
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:12 am
by Beechtree
Wow Shearer, those handles are great. Nice job, I am glad you were able to do it with what you have around your house.
I hadn't seen this thread, but It's amazing, ask and yea shall receive is right with not only one but two of the same pattern. thawk and tongueriver showing two beauties!
Re: Schrade Cut CO HELP
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:15 pm
by glennbad
Nice job on that. I like how you left the bone shape kinda "natural"