Cattaragus 225 handle repair?

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:49 pm

Say, can someone tell me how you take one of these apart to repair the handle? Or is that something I should be trying to do!!??

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:36 pm

Can you post a pic?
That might help us in telling how to fix it.
Or send it to one of us to repair for you.

Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:02 pm

I jave seen the 225Q, they are a nice knife, however I can't recall how the handle comes apaprt. May be a picture to refresh my memory. What exactly needs to be done to it? washers replaced, refinished?

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:23 pm

Handle is a bit loose. Some of the leather washers are broken.

I have included some shots to give some idea as to the condition or the knife as an example or a "collectable." It may be that it should be left as is? Thoughts? Note that the blade has been cleaned and buffed. The point has also been slightly ground to a difffent contour. For these reasons, I thought it might be a candidate for "restoration" as a "de - milled" knife.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:25 am

It looks to me like there are two vertical rivets through the butt cap & the end of the tang is peened down over the butt cap.

I am not familiar with that knife, other than I have seen one or two, but wasn't looking at how to repair them.

Is there a horizontal pin through the butt cap anywhere?
If so that could be the key. Punch out the horizontal pin & see where you are. If it is still not removable, I would then carefully file down the peen of the tang. This means that it will be shorter, but you can compensate for it in the leather rings. BTW, you can get the leathers rings from a knife supply like Jantz Supply.

If there is no horizontal pin, then filing off the end of the tang might get the butt cap loose, or you might have to file off the vertical rivets also. I am not sure of the construction of the knife.

You might want to do some research on it and see if there is a patent on the knife. If so, a patent diagram might show you what you need.

I hope this helps,
Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:00 am

Dale pretty much covered all the bases. I have seen some military knives with a split tang, those two rivits ay be the actual tang, if you are looking to put on a custom handle other than leather I would grind down the nubs on the buttcap, the it should pop off. Looks like i need to find one of these to disect

. Dale's suggestion on finding the patent is a good one!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:28 pm

Griz,
Maybe I can tell you more in a few days about how to repair this knife.
I just bought one on ebay. It should be here within a week (I hope).

Dale

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Sat May 05, 2007 8:20 pm

Thanks, orvet! Looking forward to hearing your assessment.

I really like these knives. The steel in these blades is really good. They really take an edge!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Sat May 05, 2007 11:33 pm

I didn't get it in the mail today, so hopefully it will come Monday.
I did find a couple Cattaraugus kitchen knives today while garage sale-ing with my wife. They both look like cheap 1950-1960s kitchen knives.

I also found a Shapleigh Hickory kitchen knife with a broken tip. It will re-profile into a good knife. It has good carbon steel.

I will let you know what I find out about the 225 when mine gets here.

Dale

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:28 am

Hey, Orvet. Did you ever get that 225Q?

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon May 28, 2007 5:19 am

Yes,
Sorry I didn't get back sooner. I have had company & been busy.
I don't see any horizontal pin anywhere in the knife.

I asked an old repairman (about 85 years old), & he said,"I don't Know. I have never had one apart. I have never seen one that needed to be repaired."

I am no closer to the puzzle of the pins than we started. I would suggest you cut the leather rings off, then you should be able to see what holds it on.

I have company now, but email me & I will get back to you in a couple days with an idea or two I have been chewing on. It would be easier to describe them on the phone. Send me an email & we can make arrangements to connect via phone.

My email is: dalervincent@comcast.net

Thanks,
Dale

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:59 am

Hello Grizz

"I would suggest you cut the leather rings off, then you should be able to see what holds it on." yup orvet said the right way to find out.

Is this a grate guy or what??? orvet goes out and buys a knife just to help tell how to fix it. Not many like him.

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Tue May 29, 2007 6:01 am

justold52 wrote:Hello Grizz
Is this a grate guy or what??? orvet goes out and buys a knife just to help tell how to fix it. Not many like him.

That's for sure!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:32 pm

Grizlly Adams wrote:
justold52 wrote:Hello Grizz
Is this a grate guy or what??? orvet goes out and buys a knife just to help tell how to fix it. Not many like him.
That's for sure!

NO..........Just a knife nut!

Hey Griz,
When you cut off the leather, save some as intact as possible. I know a fellow who can make you some, if they aren't the standard ones sold in knife repair shops.

Please take some pics & show us what you find in there.

Thanks,
Dale