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Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:07 pm
by orvet
Last year Tony (Schradenut) emailed me with a concept for a knife he wanted me to build for him. He sent me the knife to use as the platform on which to build the custom. The build has gone on with a few changes, time out for my knee surgery, and life in general, for the better part of the year.

The knife started life as an Ulster TL-29 (made by Schrade with the Swinden Key system) and has been radically customized.
The Ulster TL-29 for modification.
The Ulster TL-29 for modification.
There is a ton of finish work, sanding and polishing on a build like this. As Glenn, MM, Bob, WB and everyone else who has had many production knives from this era apart, finish work on internal pieces was not a priority. The inside of the springs and liners were usually never highly finished. The springs in this knife were coated with a silver paint to help protect from rust and to make it look shiny at the bottom of the blade pocket. The paint helped hide the rough edge of the liner. It has no effect on the function of the knife, but it sure effects the looks. I spent a lot of time polishing unfinished edges on this knife. I figured if it was worth doing, it was worth doing right.
This is what the spring looked like just removed from the knife.
This is what the spring looked like just removed from the knife.
This is the spring with a trip to the Scotch Brite wheel to remove the paint.
This is the spring with a trip to the Scotch Brite wheel to remove the paint.
This is the spring after being polished on the inside. Shown with the blade and liners after the bolsters were soldiered on to the liners.
This is the spring after being polished on the inside. Shown with the blade and liners after the bolsters were soldiered on to the liners.
This is the rough edge of the kick after the Scotch Brite wheel and before sanding /polishing out the rough spots.
Ulster rough kick after Scotch Brite wheel.jpg
Ulster rough kick after sand & polish.jpg
This is the Schrade Cut Co which is the same pattern that was used later for the Schrade Walden 2OT, the very first of the Schrade Walden Old Timer line. This is the knife I uses as a pattern for Tony’s knife.
Old & New.jpg
This was taken before I had completed the new bolsters.
This was taken before I had completed the new bolsters.
This pic shows the grooving of the bolsters, a work in progress at this point.
This is the process of cutting grooves in the bolsters.
This is the process of cutting grooves in the bolsters.
This pic shows the bolster with all three grooves in it. The dark middle line is a groove that has been cut but not polished yet. The picture was taken on a scanner and the unpolished groove did weird things with the light and made the groove look like an ink line drawn on the bolster. The wood on the handles is Panamanian Cocobolo.
March 8 - 2014.jpg
Tony wanted the knife patterned after the 2OT, but he wanted it to be an easy opener and for the liner lock to be moved from the screwdriver blade to the spear blade. This is where I cut the easy open notch.
March 10 - 2014 with EO cutout.jpg
Now it is time to cut the bevel Tony wanted on the end of the bolster as opposed to the pinch bolster of the 2OT. To cut the bevel at a semi-consistent angle I had to design, & make a filing jig. That took me a couple days to design and build it. I used cedar door shims as wedges to hold the side of the knife fast in the jig so it would not move.
March 11- Bolster bevel jig a.jpg
March 11- Bolster bevel jig b.jpg
After hours of polishing the knife was finally ready to be assembled permanently!
I will add the final pictures in the next post.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:31 pm
by orvet
Here some pictures of the knife as it is now.
Ulster Custom.jpg
Ulster Custom b.jpg
Ulster Custom c.jpg
Ulster Custom f.jpg
Ulster Custom h.jpg
It looks like I didn't get pics of the pile side.
I will add some later.
There is one think we are hoping to add and that is engraving to the bottom bolsters.
I am in contact with an engraver and we hope to get the bottom bolster to look like this id we can ge the right person to do a deep engraving to look like the name is stamped.
This is what we hope to get added to both bottom bolsters .
This is what we hope to get added to both bottom bolsters .

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:48 pm
by singin46
Wow,, I get it now Dale. Beautiful job you did on this one! ::tu:: ::tu::
It looks very much like the original 22OT.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:49 pm
by glennbad
That looks totally awesome, Dale.

BTW, you beat me to it. I've had a very similar project in transition on the bench for quite a few months.

I'll post it up when it gets done, in the mean time, I'll just admire yours. :shock: :shock: ::tu::

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:05 pm
by bladeguy58
When it comes to custom conversions I notice that there seem to be a lot of TL-29's that are used, why is that? I have a nice Case Tested XX that is in pretty good shape and the only thing missing is the bale.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:44 pm
by orvet
bladeguy58 wrote:When it comes to custom conversions I notice that there seem to be a lot of TL-29's that are used, why is that? I have a nice Case Tested XX that is in pretty good shape and the only thing missing is the bale.
The TL-29 is fairly inexpensive, plentiful, built for hard work and they can be transformed in so many different ways. ::nod::
They are very versatile, unlike a stockman.
What can you make easily from a stockman beside a single blade jack? ::shrug::

Camillus made a lot of the TL-29s for other companies over the years, including Camillus.
If you want a bale for the Case TL-29; a Camillus bale should fit just fine.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:48 pm
by bladeguy58
orvet wrote:
bladeguy58 wrote:When it comes to custom conversions I notice that there seem to be a lot of TL-29's that are used, why is that? I have a nice Case Tested XX that is in pretty good shape and the only thing missing is the bale.
The TL-29 is fairly inexpensive, plentiful, built for hard work and they can be transformed in so many different ways. ::nod::
They are very versatile, unlike a stockman.
What can you make easily from a stockman beside a single blade jack? ::shrug::

Camillus made a lot of the TL-29s for other companies over the years, including Camillus.
If you want a bale for the Case TL-29; a Camillus bale should fit just fine.
Thanks Dale you kind of confirmed what I thought. So now that you've answered that question my second one is why were there so many TL-29's made, it's like you can't go anywhere without see one made by one maker or another.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:53 pm
by Colonel26
Awesome job there Dale! Very nice!

Blade guy, I'll echo what Dale said. They are plentiful, relatively cheap to pick up, and are tough. You can take a tl-29, get it customized into a work of art, and it'll still be a heavy duty user should you decide to do so.

Plus, who doesn't love a big ol sharp spear blade?

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:23 pm
by treefarmer
Dale, that is a great lookin' knife!!! Schradenut ought to be happy and proud.
Treefarmer

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:29 pm
by jerryd6818
bladeguy58 wrote: why were there so many TL-29's made, it's like you can't go anywhere without see one made by one maker or another.
The TL-29 (military designation by the way. Electricians Knife in the civilian world) was first made for the military for WWI as a Signal Corps knife. It's an inexpensive, beefy, sturdy, versatile knife so it has gained some popularity in the trades and has lasted this slightly less than 100 years.

This is just a guess but it makes sense to me so I'm going to put it here even though it's speculation. I'm going to guess WWII had a lot to do with the knife's popularity over the past 70 or so years. Guys exposed to the knife during the war came home and the building of America boomed. When they needed a knife thoughts went back to that sturdy versatile TL-29 and the word spread as non-vets discovered this handy work knife. Beat up on that theory if you like but for me, it rings true.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:51 pm
by royal0014
Man, that's some kinda gorgeous right there! ::nod::

I hope you have an apprentice, it would be a shame for skill like yours to not be passed on... ::tu::

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:06 pm
by orvet
Thanks guys for the complements.
It was sort of a labor of love, I love the TL-29 and I love to make other knives out of them and see how far I can get from the original.
Sort of like; “Blingage for the TL-20” ::rotflol::


royal0014 wrote:Man, that's some kinda gorgeous right there! ::nod::

I hope you have an apprentice, it would be a shame for skill like yours to not be passed on... ::tu::
I am self-taught. I really consider myself an apprentice, not a full journeyman.
As for having an apprentice;
I know a lot of guys got started or were pushed along the path of knife tinkering from reading what Glenn, MM, myself and others post on the forums here.
I guess in a way I/we sort of do have several apprentices. ::nod::

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:25 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Boy howdy, that turned out great Dale! Beautiful work!! ::tu:: ::tu::

WB

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:43 pm
by glennbad
orvet wrote:

"I hope you have an apprentice, it would be a shame for skill like yours to not be passed on"


I am self-taught. I really consider myself an apprentice, not a full journeyman.
As for having an apprentice;
I know a lot of guys got started or were pushed along the path of knife tinkering from reading what Glenn, MM, myself and others post on the forums here.
I guess in a way I/we sort of do have several apprentices. ::nod::

I consider myself an apprentice of yours, Dale. 8)

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:00 pm
by Schradenut
WOW !!!
Dale, that is a stupendous effort to turn my rather ordinary TL-29, into "The Jewel in the Crown".
I had high expectations when i asked you to transform my knife, utilising all the ideas i had been dreaming up over a long period, and constructing it so magnificently. The problems along the way were many, but with your rather considerable skills, were ably to overcome all adversity.
This fine knife will be sitting right beside my 2ot, as it has gained the same status.
A wonderful job Dale, for which i will be forever grateful. Many thanks,
Tony. (Your Aussie mate)

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:23 pm
by Darksev
Nice work! that is one chunky little guy, and your attention to the inside of the springs is awesome. I'd like to think all of us are apprentices to each other, such is the benefit of the internet :)

To re-affirm what everyone else has already said, the TL-29 is awesome for mechanics. It's blank canvas that's cheap (i just grabbed a couple off auction for <$20 each), over built (and with usually good materials), in a size that is perfect for pocket carry. You can often end up with a "vintage" knife without destroying anything truly valuable. Heck, the ones I grabbed were in need of work, lest then end up in the trash or someone's junk drawer.

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:56 am
by Miller Bro's
Looks good!

I like the grain on the wood handles ::tu::

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:07 am
by Shearer
Top job Dale.I like the way you copied the 20T and made it into a easy opener .
Grant

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:49 am
by PigSticker
Good lookin work Dale crank out a few more of those--!

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:01 pm
by Producer
Most impressive Dale.
You do great work as I can attest personaly with the job you did fixing my 34OT.

I like the TL-29 for all the same reasons others have stated. For me it's the robustness of the build
and the practicality of the design, never mind the availability.

The transformation you created is a work of art.
Glad I found this thread, Producer

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:38 pm
by orvet
UPDATE:

Tony was able to get the knife engraved to his satisfaction in Australia. He sent me some updated pictures that show the ULSTER engraved in the bottom bolsters of the knife.

I hope you enjoy the pics, Tony is a much better photographer than I am!

This is the before picture:
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I think the ULSTER name engraved in the bolsters made a huge upgrade in the appearance of the knife!

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:00 pm
by glennbad
Man, that looks great! So he found someone to do the engraving?

That looks just about perfect now! ::tu::

Re: Ulster TL-29 conversion to something special!

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:26 am
by Toejammer
Gorgeous work as always Dale !