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Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:54 am
by orvet
I thought we had a thread devoted to Old Timer variants; i.e. knives bearing the Old Timer name or tang stamp and another company name on the knife. But since I couldn’t find that topic, I decided to start a new one.

I know John Primble had 3 of the Old Timer stockman patterns that wore John Primble tang stamps.
Primble Old Timers a.jpg

I know Sears had a similar knife made by Schrade with the Old Crafty shield.
Old Crafty b.jpg
Sears also had a large number of Schrade Old Timer patterns made that looked like Old Timers but did not wear the Old Timer name.


I also have several examples of the True Value Hardware Master Mechanic MM Old Timers. I will have to find more pictures, but here are some of the MM89.
MM89.jpg
MM89 Schrade.jpg

Recently I found an Old Timer that was new to me, the TW Old Timer for Trust Worthy Hardware.
TW Old Timer Barlow b.jpg
TW Old Timer Barlow tang stamp.jpg
This is a Trust Worthy sign posted in another topic a few years ago.
Trust Worthy Hardware sign.jpg


I am sure there are other variants of Old Timer patterns that were made as SFOs for many other companies. I am especially interested if they have the Old Timer name on the shield or an OT tang stamp number or if they are an obvious copy of an Old Timer made by Schrade for another company.

Show ‘em if ya’ got ‘em! ::tu::

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:31 am
by Shearer
First off (1) Three Primbles 933,934 ,935
(2) Craftsman 9523
(3)Three MM 34, 8,89
(4) Imperial
(5)Robeson Shuredge
(6)Schrade 225H
(7)Schrade Ireland .This one I am not sure off at the time a person had 5 he was selling.

I also have a Schrade Walden NY USA 25OT blade in a 225 frame and handles.
Hope they are in the right order.
Grant

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:40 am
by junebug
HOW ABOUT THE "PRINCE ALBERT TOBACCO" & THE "CAMEL CIGARETTES" PROMO KNIVES..... 8)
ULSTER TANG STAMPS.....OLD TIMER SHIELDS
(NOT MY KNIVES/STUFF,BUT HAD THESE PIX SAVED FOR RESEARCH)
I DO HAVE A TIN.......BUT NO KNIVES ::facepalm:: :mrgreen:

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:12 pm
by MrBlister
Here one they sold a few down at SEARS..
Prolly bout $2....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLO

HET

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:12 pm
by orvet
Awesome knives guys, keep 'em coming. ::tu:: ::tu::

I had not seen the Old Timer made in Ireland and I am with you on that Grant; I have my doubts about it.
All the rest are pretty much above question in my mind.

Dave, I don't recall seeing the 2OT with the Craftsman shield.

Nice examples guys! ::tu::

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:49 pm
by thawk
44OT_pen_f.JPG
44OT pen knife
44oT_pen_b.JPG
back side

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:17 am
by Shearer
Here's a 12OT two blade

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:41 am
by orvet
Wow Hal, I have never seen one of those!
They left out the sheepfoot, spey and Wharncliffe blades and substituted a pen blade!
Do you have any history to go with the knife?



Cool one-off Grant.
Looks like they used a 12OT blade when they assembled a 72OT.


Here is a 50OT with bone handles.
Ulster 50OT mark side.jpg
Ulster 50OT pile side.jpg
I just found another one, a shell handled Diamond Edge with an Ulster 58OT blade in it.
This is the only shell handled Old Timer I have seen.
Ulster 58OT Shell.jpg

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:23 am
by Shearer
Dale.The Ulster Old timer 500 is every hard to find.
The one I have has 5OT tang stamp.
Also I have a 296Y ( 96OT )

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:35 am
by Shearer
Here is another one .Its a Old Timer 970TY.That's what it was called when purchased .
Grant

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:41 am
by thawk
orvet wrote:Wow Hal, I have never seen one of those!
They left out the sheepfoot, spey and Wharncliffe blades and substituted a pen blade!
Do you have any history to go with the knife?
No history, but I do not think it was done at the factory, at least not as a released edition. The front of the frame has a 33OT cutout, like it should have the pen knife up on the same end as the clip.
44OT_Pen_bl.JPG
The mod was nicely executed, it's a single spring, with offset catch bits. I did not keep this one, kind of wish I would have. There was no blade rub, and good snap. Handy design.
44OT_pen_s.JPG

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:33 pm
by orvet
thawk wrote: The mod was nicely executed, it's a single spring, with offset catch bits. I did not keep this one, kind of wish I would have. There was no blade rub, and good snap. Handy design.
I agree 100%! Very handy design!
I am very fond of that blade combination in a single spring knife, (I guess that is a classic penknife design).
The only thing that would make it better to my taste is to make the master blade a Wharncliffe instead of a clip blade. ::ds::

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:21 pm
by thawk
MrBlister wrote:Here one they sold a few down at SEARS..
Prolly bout $2....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLO

HET
Those were $5 Mister McBlister!!! :mrgreen:
2otP.JPG

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:20 pm
by Shearer
Trustworthy Hardware 36815 USA ( Ulster 58OT )

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:46 pm
by orvet
Nice find Grant! ::tu::

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:56 pm
by Shearer
Dale you have the10OT.Ihave the 58OT.
It makes you wonder if they did 114OT Utility or scout Knife

Grant

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:08 pm
by orvet
I have not seen a 114OT with the Trust Worthy tang stamp, but you can bet I am looking! :mrgreen:

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 pm
by Meridian_Mike
I found this Old Timer variant thread and thought I would push it to the top and show off my latest find....
Old Crafty 9547....
Old Crafty 9547_1.jpg
Match Strike pull and an unusual grind on the blade above the pull..... Interesting.

I also have an Old Crafty 95071 in my collection....
Old Crafty 95071.jpg
And an Old Crafty 9545....
Old Crafty 9545.jpg
Also... I have a couple of Master Mechanic Old Timers...
MM89 (with the upside down shield....LOL).....
MM89 Master Mechanic.JPG
And a Master Mechanic MM108.....
MM108 Master Mechanic.JPG
That is what I have for now.
Y'all got any others in your collection since 2014???

Mike
:D

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:03 am
by tongueriver
Here is a Primble 8OT in bone, presumably from the 1959-1961 time frame. If I can find it, it is available.
primble001.jpg

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:27 am
by Meridian_Mike
I don't have any of the Belknaps yet. If you can lay hands on it, shoot me a PM.
Is that a double stamp on the blade?

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:54 pm
by black mamba
Schrade built in the late 1970s, basically a black sawcut Delrin 8OT . . . very nice!
P-FblackBisonOpen.jpg

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:59 pm
by Meridian_Mike
black mamba wrote:Schrade built in the late 1970s, basically a black sawcut Delrin 8OT . . . very nice!
Sho 'nuff is a nice one!
Thanks for showing!

::tu::

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:19 pm
by Doc B
Seem to accumulate them...and have gotten all of these in multiple knife purchases...
All are Scrade USA made. The top 3 are 108 OT stockman knives. The bottom right 2 blade is a 104OT and the bottom left is a single blade 18OT...it has a liner lock. Maybe the smallest liner lock knife I have.
OT.jpg
linerlock.jpg

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:23 am
by jxr1197
Neat old thread. Here's an early 58OT in genuine (sparkly plastic) meerschaum. It's the first one I've seen with the pattern on the reverse and milled liners.
mark.jpg
mark2.jpg
liners.jpg

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:46 am
by Meridian_Mike
Very cool knife! Meerschaum... really? Now that is very nice!
I LOVE the backbone!

I managed to secure a Primble over the weekend. I won this one on an ebay auction.
It's a Primble 935. it's not in the best shape but the blades are full. I get my happiness from knives by cleaning them up so I will get my happys from this one!
Primble 935_1.jpg
Primble 935_2.jpg
Mike