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R4466 up for critique
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:28 pm
by schmoozer
This was sold as a used commemorative. Old style stamps (1924-33), steel liners, old style blade stamp, discolored stag scales indicating long-term storage. Liners are knurled on the back, it even smells old. All thoughts appreciated.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:35 pm
by schmoozer
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:39 pm
by schmoozer
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:30 pm
by espn77
Hummm. That's interesting. That stag is definitely not new. I think there will be a large conversation about this one. I have an opinion. I'm interested to here others. Keith
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:21 pm
by schmoozer
I have handled a number of old Remington's and this one has me just a little confused. Everything I see about it says original, but the rarity of examples leaves me wondering. I have found no authenticated examples online. Seen some fakes and it is not similar. I only paid $40 for it, so the seller was not a scammer.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:29 pm
by schmoozer
espn77 wrote:Hummm. That's interesting. That stag is definitely not new. I think there will be a large conversation about this one. I have an opinion. I'm interested to here others. Keith
Keith, do you have an example you could show?
I saw an old picture of the one used as a model for the commemoratives on another website.
I have not had any local collectors put their eyes on it yet for opinions.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:31 pm
by espn77
Lol. No. I don't have one to show. This is my Holly Grail Knife.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:42 pm
by schmoozer
To be honest, when I saw it online for sale I was sitting at the airport waiting for my wife to arrive. It had been posted only a few minutes, bad pic but the apparent age and the bullet had me trying to figure out how much trouble I would be in if I went to get it immediately. Arranged to meet the seller locally, with my wife, and went into high-stress mode waiting. Didn't realize the model until I got home and dug into my reference book.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:49 pm
by espn77
Id say you did pretty good.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:26 pm
by schmoozer
espn77 wrote:Id say you did pretty good.
I need to flip it but have no pricing basis.
Thinking of grouping it with the hone base. They need to go into a collection and not sit in a safe.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:32 pm
by espn77
I'm definitely interested in both. Keith
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:00 pm
by Remumc
You stumbled into a real vintage bullet schmoozer. Those are nickel silver milled liners. Milled being the coin edge look on the back and also the inner edges of the liners. Nice old vintage stag and a good original etch. Just enough pocket wear to make it feel just right. You hit a home run buddy!!
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:04 pm
by schmoozer
Thanks for the backup. It was one of those too-good-to-be-true situations where you keep doubting yourself.
It will be heading out to a new home shortly

Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:10 pm
by schmoozer
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:28 am
by schmoozer
So, the issue of profit came up. I bought this knife from someone who wanted $40 for it. They did not say they had no clue and were looking for pricing comments. They were happy to get get $40.
The corollary is this:
A large printing mill had a press go down and trip off line. It was costing millions per day and they called in a retired employee to look it over. After 3 days the employee marked a piece with chalk and said replace this. They do and the system came back online. The retiree submitted an invoice for $50,000.00. The company was pissed and said " Justify your invoice". The employee did " $0.15 for chalk and $49,999.85 for knowing where to mark the X. The company happily paid.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:58 am
by btrwtr
Remumc wrote:You stumbled into a real vintage bullet schmoozer. Those are nickel silver milled liners. Milled being the coin edge look on the back and also the inner edges of the liners. Nice old vintage stag and a good original etch. Just enough pocket wear to make it feel just right. You hit a home run buddy!!
Agreed!
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:45 pm
by espn77
Jerry did a little editing on a couple pictures I sent him. Thought I'd put them up for later reference.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:54 pm
by ScoutKnives
Beautiful rare knife Keith you should be very proud to own it .
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 pm
by espn77
Thanks scoutknives. I am very excited to have this one in my collection.
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:51 am
by schmoozer
Keith,
I recently met a Winchester collector in NM that I may be paying a visit to in the near future. Will contact you for visiting if the timing works.
Brad
Re: R4466 up for critique
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:56 am
by bestgear
Keith - congratulations on finding your Holy Grail through AAPK - enjoy the moment, it's a fantastic find!