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Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:54 pm
by Camillus
If anyone can help identify this dagger and origin I would be greatful,
I think it was made in India?
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:35 pm
by knife7knut
Beautiful old dagger! Could be Indian but I tend to think it might possibly be Iraqi or some other nearby country. A lot of this style jambiya(I believe it is)had multiple points on the blade;usually 3 or 5 to assist in damaging whatever(or whomever) was the recipient. They are kind of hard to date but I would hazard a guess as maybe later 19th century. Beautiful score!
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:45 pm
by Camillus
Doing some more investigation on this knife I think it could be Persian made...
Camillus
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:40 pm
by btrwtr
Morroccan Koummya dagger. If you Google search the name you will find many similar examples. Beautiful knife. I think these have been traditionally made in this same style for hundreds of years. It would take someone with specific expertise to give an accurate date for it.
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:10 am
by kootenay joe
I see no picture of the blade ? or perhaps the last pic shows a serpent, is a part of the blade ?
kj
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:48 am
by Camillus
The last picture with the serpent is the blade, no other markings
Camillus
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:22 pm
by kootenay joe
"The last picture with the serpent is the blade, no other markings"
Yes, but there is no picture that shows entire blade, either just the blade or entire knife out of the scabbard.
Can you post one ?
kj
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:20 pm
by Camillus
Not the best picture...
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:02 pm
by kootenay joe
Thank you. You describe this as a "dagger" so i presume it has a very pointed tip.
I have thought that only a straight blade, not curved, could be classified as a dagger ?
kj
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:00 pm
by Camillus
FYI
Janbiya, also spelled janbia, jambiya, and jambia (Arabic: جنبية janbīyah, Kurdish: xencer), is the Arabic term for dagger, but it is generally used to describe a specific type of dagger with a short curved blade and a medial ridge.
I too though a dagger was a double edged blade that came to a point.
Camillus

Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:12 pm
by knife7knut
This is a Persian jambiya.It is double edged with the reinforcing rib down the middle. It is referred to as a dagger.
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:10 pm
by btrwtr
This is Websters definition of dagger.
Definition of dagger
1
: a sharp pointed knife for stabbing
2
a : something that resembles a dagger
b : a character † used as a reference mark or to indicate a death date
The OP Morroccan Koummya is commonly referred to as a dagger.
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:48 pm
by kootenay joe
I can see what a lethal knife the "Persian jambiya" is: a reinforced pointy tip to puncture your opponent's abdomen, and as you penetrate further the curved tip goes up through the diaphragm and into the lungs and possibly heart. It is Game Over.
kj
Re: Help needed to identify dagger
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:16 pm
by Camillus
Thanks guys for all your help to identify this knife!
We can learn a lot from each other.
Camillus
