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Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:02 pm
by tinroof
Posts on the forum refers to "Imperial Tang list", is that in a second publication? I cannot seem to find in the forum. Therefore I am not finding information on my newest find. Please point me in the right direction. Appreciate any history / info you may offer.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:04 pm
by deltaboy
Nice knife I love a good Stockman!
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:49 pm
by jerryd6818
Welcome to AAPK.
There's a thread devoted to tang stamps and tang stamp charts here --->
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=39799&p=386211&hili ... ps#p386211
No offense intended but the pictures of your knife are too dark to tell anything about it. I even ran it through my image manipulation program and the quality is too sub-par to improve. May I suggest you take pictures outdoors, in the shade.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:28 pm
by tinroof
Thanks Jerry, I will get some better (I hope) photo's up soon.

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:54 pm
by tinroof
Second Attempt !! Better photo's. Don't know if this is a current fact, but what I could find was that the "Imperial" tang has not been used since 1988. This came out of a junk box and is near new in appearance. Has made me curious. Thanks
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:57 am
by knife7knut
Looks like it might be a,"Pacific Rim" Imperial but that doesn't necessarily mean bad.Not particularly valuable but probably a good working knife.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:31 am
by jerryd6818
That's what I thought Ray but I was to chicken to post it.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:49 am
by philco
I don't think it's an import. My gut tells me it's USA made. Tinroof can you tell us EXACTLY what the tang stamp says ?
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:25 am
by knife7knut
jerryd6818 wrote:That's what I thought Ray but I was to chicken to post it.
Hey Jerry;I've been wrong before. As Red Green is wont to say:" I'm a man...........but I can change...........if I have to...."

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:36 am
by bighomer
If you go back to the dark photos in the second one you can see the tang says stainless imperial prov.usa. I've got a jack from the same time frame.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:41 am
by knife7knut
bighomer wrote:If you go back to the dark photos in the second one you can see the tang says stainless imperial prov.usa. I've got a jack from the same time frame.
Good catch!

I will go stand in the "time out" corner now.

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:51 am
by jerryd6818
knife7knut wrote:bighomer wrote:If you go back to the dark photos in the second one you can see the tang says stainless imperial prov.usa. I've got a jack from the same time frame.
Good catch!

I will go stand in the "time out" corner now.

Hey scoot over and make room for me.

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:52 pm
by bighomer
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:53 pm
by Old Hunter
Looks like an Imperial Frontier Stockman, but made with the Imperial tang stamp and a different jigging pattern in the Delrin handles. I think that is a nice knife - similar in quality to the late USA made Old Timers. OH
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:54 pm
by tinroof
I just knew that y'all had seen more and knew more than I had in my found in my struggles, so thanks to all who looked at my question.
Still, this tang stamping is not in the Imperial list you referred to on your pages. So, can you nail down, (even take a best guess) at the year it was made. I have seen some "same style and design" knives listings with 300 series model numbers, but no dating cited.
It would be signifigant to learn it was made in 1988, compared to it's near new condition.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:09 pm
by bighomer
I doubt you can pin it down to a year or a decade for that matter. It was in my opinion made in the later years of usa knife production, someone may be more help.

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:00 pm
by tinroof
Thanks for your responses and effort to satisfy my wandering curiosity. My "fill in the blank box" will be
Say it ain't so!
I just read that now Smith and Wesson is the new owner, who bought Taylor, who bought Schrade, who bought Imperial. So the fairy tale goes on, and we may never know the end.

Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:39 pm
by knife7knut
tinroof wrote:Thanks for your responses and effort to satisfy my wandering curiosity. My "fill in the blank box" will be
Say it ain't so!
I just read that now Smith and Wesson is the new owner, who bought Taylor, who bought Schrade, who bought Imperial. So the fairy tale goes on, and we may never know the end.

Maybe S&W will release some new knives like the Blackie Collins designs back in the 70's. Problem is if they did nobody could afford them.I bought one of their folders back then and if I recall correctly it was about $60. Don't know what that would translate in today's money but it wouldn't be cheap.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:08 pm
by orvet
First, welcome to AAPK!
I think your knife was probably made between 1983 and the mid-1990s. I'm not 100% sure on that it's just a guesstimation but I do have some knives from the same series. I'll post a picture when I find it, if I still have it. I believe these were made after Albert Baer bought the last of the outstanding shares of Imperial.
I believe that series was only ground on one side, they sort of had a chisel grind on the blades. I was looking at it on my phone so I can't tell whether yours has a chisel grind or not, but I know at least the big Stockman I had had a chisel grind on the master blade.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:35 pm
by bighomer
This jack doesn't hardly have any grind at all, yet will slice paper.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:42 pm
by bladebuddy
Hey Tinroof, I have an Imperial like yours except for the shield. Mine says DE ( diamond edge).
I have to agree with Oldhunter that the knife is very similar to an Old timer 8OT.
Re: Imperial Addition to the Family
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:16 pm
by glennbad
I'd say anytime after 73...These have the DE shield, but the knife is the same otherwise.
https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us ... DE73-2.htm