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Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:30 pm
by monterray
I purchased this switchblade new in 1992 and was told it was a Navy Seal knife. Been in drawer all this time. Like new. Any help with information on it will be greatly appreciated. It looks like a early Dalton.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:42 pm
by espn77
Your knife looks very similar to a knife I have. Here is a link to the discussion on mine.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=50584&p=589749&hili ... fe#p589749
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:31 pm
by monterray
Thanks for the info.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:28 pm
by sam eib
Could be Paragon but just a guess. I had one years ago and seemed to me it was a Paragon.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:07 pm
by americanedgetech
I was thinking it was an older Boker, (based on the button design, and location) and tried to look it up but came up empty handed.
Perhaps it is a prototype?
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:01 pm
by Bill DeShivs
It's possibly a Charles Ochs (Ox Forge) "black knife."
It's not a Boker.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:14 pm
by Brian_R170
I agree with Bill, it could be a genuine Miller/Ochs "Black Knife" aka "Seal Knife" etc.
I'm pretty sure it's not a Paragon or a Boker as their shape was slightly different.
Rob Dalton made a clone of it but there is a dead giveaway to Rob's knives which is a "bump" in the recess above the button. I don't see it on your knife, but the pictures aren't too clear. If you post a closeup of the button, it would be easy to tell if it's a Dalton.
The Miller/Ochs knives had a small hex screw where a blade stop pin would normally be on modern button-lock automatics. This screw served to adjust the vertical blade play. The screw is hard to see if you don't know where to look, but you can see it with the blade closed.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:41 pm
by americanedgetech
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:44 am
by Brian_R170
No, that one is a Dalton Baby Seal. It's much smaller than the knife in this thread.
Re: Help!! Who made and today's value.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:02 am
by Brian_R170
I just was able to open the full-sized photos (didn't work for me before) and I can see that the knife is missing the ridge in the button recess, so it's not a Dalton. I think there's a good chance it's a Miller/Ochs Black Knife made between 1990 and 1994.
Minimum value around $200. If you can get an expert to authenticate it, probably $300 or more. Back in 2010 I read that Charles Ochs (Ox Forge) would do a tune-up for a nominal fee, but if you sent him a fake, he'd send it back in broken pieces. That'd be one way to authenticate it.