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Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:30 pm
by XX Case XX
Both these tang stamps are off Schrade 825's. What's the difference between the two?
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Mike
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:17 pm
by Rusty1
Schrade stopped using the Walden name mid 70's, If the covers are delrin on the knife then late 60's to mid 70's. Then they continued to use just Schrade after that. The factory in Walden burnt down in 1958 and they moved their operation to the old Ulster plant in Ellenville, then from there across town to the newer plant, which since the closer in 2004 has recently been raised to the ground.
Russell
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:36 pm
by XX Case XX
Rusty1 wrote:Schrade stopped using the Walden name mid 70's
Thanks Russell. The second photo, (Walden) is my knife. It's Delrin and has the word "Stainless" on the shield. I didn't know why there was 2 different types of stamps on those but you cleared that right up.
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Mike
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:47 pm
by kootenay joe
Basically: Schrade Cut Co (aka "SCC") ~1905-1946; Schrade Walden 1946-1972; Schrade/N.Y. U.S.A. & Schrade/U.S.A. 1972-2004.
kj
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:59 pm
by orvet
Schrade Walden dropped "Walden" from the tang stamps the June of 1973.
The 825 is a pretty common pattern and I imagine there are multiple variations is the later tang stamp. I think I have a couple myself.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:04 pm
by Mustanger
I have been interested in collecting the 825 with all the different tang stamps and variations. Here are a few more.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:25 pm
by tongueriver
It is indeed a great pattern with DOZENS of variations, even more if you count SFOs. Here's one a little fancier than some. If it is still around here someplace it is available.
Here's another one.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:46 pm
by Mustanger
tongueriver wrote:It is indeed a great pattern with DOZENS of variations, even more if you count SFOs.
I count 4 different tang stamps for the 897UH including the Craftsman. The 95th Anniversary knives are beautiful!
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:02 pm
by tongueriver
The first ones were in bone and did not have "U.S.A." in the stamps. Nor did they have the pattern # on the reverse (pile) side of the tangs.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:01 am
by kootenay joe
Calvin the S-W bone 825 is a lovely knife, still in the 'look' of Schrade Cut Co as opposed to the later Schrade-Walden after being conquered by PLASTIC.
Unlike people, the old knives look better than the younger ones.
kj
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:15 am
by KnifeSlinger#81
kootenay joe wrote:Calvin the S-W bone 825 is a lovely knife, still in the 'look' of Schrade Cut Co as opposed to the later Schrade-Walden after being conquered by PLASTIC.
Unlike people, the old knives look better than the younger ones.
kj
You can't substitute peachseed bone with anything, for sure. The swinden bolsters also give them a very different look and they are thicker. The most noticeable difference to me is the very sharp & crisp grinds on the pre swinden knives as opposed to the post swinden knives which look less pronounced.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:48 pm
by kootenay joe
Paul i think we all agree that the handles and blade grinds for Schrade knives lost out beginning about 1960 in an attempt by Schrade-Walden to meet a price point.
Perhaps this enabled Schrade to stay in business for another 44 years but the cost was the loss of great knives and the introduction of lower end 'ho-hum' knives.
kj
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:55 pm
by tongueriver
At some point I think they tumbled the blades in an abrasive drum like one might do agates to achieve the finish. A far cry from cutlers sitting at a grinding wheel. The old timers produced beautiful knives at great cost to their health. The 825 stainless steel pattern had ancestors going way back to before World War Two in the original Schrade Cutlery Company, but here is one (in the mail) that points up the 1950s progenitor to the 825 in non-stainless steel.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:01 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
kootenay joe wrote:Paul i think we all agree that the handles and blade grinds for Schrade knives lost out beginning about 1960 in an attempt by Schrade-Walden to meet a price point.
Perhaps this enabled Schrade to stay in business for another 44 years but the cost was the loss of great knives and the introduction of lower end 'ho-hum' knives.
kj
It may have. I still enjoy the post 1960's knives but view them as a different thing.
tongueriver wrote:At some point I think they tumbled the blades in an abrasive drum like one might do agates to achieve the finish. A far cry from cutlers sitting at a grinding wheel. The old timers produced beautiful knives at great cost to their health. The 825 stainless steel pattern had ancestors going way back to before World War Two in the original Schrade Cutlery Company, but here is one (in the mail) that points up the 1950s progenitor to the 825 in non-stainless steel.
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That one is a dandy Cal, I didn't expect it to last for sale very long.
Re: Schrade Tang Stamp Question
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:57 pm
by jxr1197
that's a thing of beauty right there