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Kutmaster identification
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:34 pm
by BeauT
Hey everyone, new here. Joined today to see if I could get some help. I’ve searched the webs and other forums on this site but can’t seem to find this model of kutmaster pocket knife anywhere.
Found it at a garage sale alongside some ww2 stuff (possibly unauthentic) and am just wondering if it could be from that time.
Needs a little cleaning and oiling up but should make for a good birthday present for my nephew
Thanks for the help
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:58 pm
by knifeaholic
WELCOME!!!
Barlow style jack...Made by Utica Cutlery, Utica NY. Circa 1950's. Utica still makes that pattern but with different handle coloring.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:17 pm
by doglegg
Don't know how old the nephew is but I bet he likes it.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:35 pm
by orvet
Welcome to AAPK!
Your Barlow appears to have bone handles.
Nice older piece.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:16 am
by BeauT
Cool! Thanks for the replies! Needed just a bit of oil and cleaning. In pretty good shape still. Not bad for $3
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:54 am
by BeauT
knifeaholic wrote:WELCOME!!!
Barlow style jack...Made by Utica Cutlery, Utica NY. Circa 1950's. Utica still makes that pattern but with different handle coloring.
Hmm so I guess I did happen across the Barlow style in my searchings. I think I got caught up in the fact that this one wasn’t engraved on the metal piece. Is that uncommon? Most Im finding have some sort of impression on them
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:58 am
by cody6268
I have two versions (1970s) of this knife--spear and sheepsfoot main blades. It's definitely a nice knife for the money. Provided, the Case Barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case--and they're near identical in every regard, except they're (much) pricier.
I'm sure your nephew will like it, as mine see a lot of use.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:58 pm
by knifeaholic
cody6268 wrote:I have two versions (1970s) of this knife--spear and sheepsfoot main blades. It's definitely a nice knife for the money. Provided, the Case Barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case--and they're near identical in every regard, except they're (much) pricier.
I'm sure your nephew will like it, as mine see a lot of use.
Just curious - where did you hear that Case barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case? I have never heard that, nor have I ever seen a Case barlow that I would say was made on contract by Kutmaster/Utica for Case. Can you show photos of Case barlows made by Kutmaster/Utica?
I have seen a number of fake Case Tested barlows made out of Kutmaster barlow parts, but never a legitemate example of a contracted knife.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:59 pm
by cody6268
knifeaholic wrote:cody6268 wrote:I have two versions (1970s) of this knife--spear and sheepsfoot main blades. It's definitely a nice knife for the money. Provided, the Case Barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case--and they're near identical in every regard, except they're (much) pricier.
I'm sure your nephew will like it, as mine see a lot of use.
Just curious - where did you hear that Case barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case? I have never heard that, nor have I ever seen a Case barlow that I would say was made on contract by Kutmaster/Utica for Case. Can you show photos of Case barlows made by Kutmaster/Utica?
I have seen a number of fake Case Tested barlows made out of Kutmaster barlow parts, but never a legitemate example of a contracted knife.
Then what I saw must have been a cobbled knife. I seem to recall seeing a "Case" knife that had what looked like a Kutmaster frame.
Re: Kutmaster identification
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:58 am
by knifeaholic
cody6268 wrote:knifeaholic wrote:cody6268 wrote:I have two versions (1970s) of this knife--spear and sheepsfoot main blades. It's definitely a nice knife for the money. Provided, the Case Barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case--and they're near identical in every regard, except they're (much) pricier.
I'm sure your nephew will like it, as mine see a lot of use.
Just curious - where did you hear that Case barlows were made by Kutmaster for Case? I have never heard that, nor have I ever seen a Case barlow that I would say was made on contract by Kutmaster/Utica for Case. Can you show photos of Case barlows made by Kutmaster/Utica?
I have seen a number of fake Case Tested barlows made out of Kutmaster barlow parts, but never a legitemate example of a contracted knife.
Then what I saw must have been a cobbled knife. I seem to recall seeing a "Case" knife that had what looked like a Kutmaster frame.
Yeah, must have been. The problem is there were tons of old parts sold out of the Utica factory in the 1980's and they have been used to make fakes of many brands, Case included.
The only knife that I know of that Utica made for Case on contract are some percentage of the 640045 pattern scout knives made during the Case XX era.