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Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:37 pm
by btrwtr
Wrong frame, wrong dog's head shield, wrong jigging, wrong bolsters. Looks like stainless steel. Looks new because it is new.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-VINTAGE-DO ... 0005.m1851

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:45 pm
by just bob
Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:00 pm
by Gunsil
This is not the first one of these I have seen. KA-BAR never did make a pattern like that, a shame some folks are bidding away their cash on it.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:07 pm
by Steve Warden
just bob wrote:Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.
AMEN!
- from another dolt :mrgreen:

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:32 pm
by philco
Could that knife have started out looking something like this ?

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:35 pm
by doglegg
Thanks from another deplorable dolt. I appreciate you fellows knowledge. ::tu::

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:46 pm
by geocash
Thanks here, too. I believe I've recently read other critical comments regarding that seller. Several months ago I bought & immediately returned one knife from that seller, so I'm a bit cautious myself.

How about an unabashed plug for the AAPK stores? I don't see that kind of thing here.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:07 pm
by just bob
I don't know where this seller is getting his items from. He recently had a slew of really great part knives including switchblades that went for big $. He also recently sold a lot of Case Classic knives with issues. He must have hit a treasure trove or warehouse of knives and parts that were accumulated for years. Look at his completed listings. Amongst the junk are some very desirable items.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:41 pm
by geocash
just bob wrote:I don't know where this seller is getting his items from. He recently had a slew of really great part knives including switchblades that went for big $. He also recently sold a lot of Case Classic knives with issues. He must have hit a treasure trove or warehouse of knives and parts that were accumulated for years. Look at his completed listings. Amongst the junk are some very desirable items.
I'm quite smitten by a lot of the knives but my problem is I often can't tell the junk from the very desirable.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:12 pm
by peanut740
I personally wouldn't bid on a good/real knife from a seller that regularly sells fakes.This seller is at or near the top of that list. ::td:: ::td::

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:45 pm
by btrwtr
peanut740 wrote:I personally wouldn't bid on a good/real knife from a seller that regularly sells fakes.This seller is at or near the top of that list. ::td:: ::td::

That makes two Roger!

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:13 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Make that 3.

I've seen a few nice legitimate knives mixed in with the junk but I just shake my head and pass them by. There's a couple of other sellers in this same category. I won't buy from them either.

Ken

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:14 pm
by gsmith7158
Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:24 pm
by mumblypeg
philco wrote:Could that knife have started out looking something like this ?
Exactly what I was thinking Phil. ::hmm::

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:46 pm
by Daryl
just bob wrote:Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.
Another grateful dolt here! The Counterfeit Watch forum has become the first thing I check when I visit AAPK. If I'm ever tempted by another knife on eBay, I'm running it past you guys first.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm
by stockman
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm
by stockman
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:50 am
by gsmith7158
stockman wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold
You may be right Harold. At first glance I didn't even see that nail nick but after magnification I see it now. My failing eyes have gotten me in trouble again. :D Stainless Cutlery Co. was a Camillus Co. So I would expect that to be a Camillus pattern but I don't recall amuskrat with square bolsters. Perhaps someone will e lighten me.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:25 am
by just bob
OK from the same seller. What is the difference between a costume knife and a counterfeit knife?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-1940 ... SwWN5cQj44


OK at least it's a straight X, but not much else straight here - I think.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:46 am
by btrwtr
A costume knife is one you can take trick or treating. Junk in other words.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:04 am
by Mumbleypeg
Apparently a costume knife is one that is masquerading as something it’s not. ::uc::

Ken

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:06 am
by gsmith7158
stockman wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold
I thought I remembered seeing this knife. It sold on Jan. 9,2019 for $56.95 and had a crack in the scale . Maybe he just repaired it. Still not certain it's authentic though.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-STAINL ... 663.l44720

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:37 pm
by btrwtr
Not the same knife.

Re: Another one from the fudge factory.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:24 pm
by gsmith7158
Well if that's not the same knife then that must be a good parrern. ::shrug::