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bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:34 pm
by Pile Driver
I got this knife a few years back at a flea market in Massachusetts for $10, it is one of the first knives that got me into collecting. I haven't done anything to clean it, it does however have a primitive cover patch in the bone. How would you treat this knife if it were yours?
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Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:41 pm
by jerryd6818
Pile Driver wrote: How would you treat this knife if it were yours?
With respect.

For me, that old Remington is only one of two or three that I've ever seen pictures of (and none live and in hand) that has a fuller on the main blade (what you're calling "blood groove")

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:52 pm
by Pile Driver
jerryd6818 wrote:
Pile Driver wrote: How would you treat this knife if it were yours?
With respect.

For me, that old Remington is only one of two or three that I've ever seen pictures of (and none live and in hand) that has a fuller on the main blade (what you're calling "blood groove")
I believe Remington coined this knife the "Bloodgroove Whittler" with the fuller on the clip point

Am I best to rehandle it or leave it be with the patch that was likely done decades ago?

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:53 pm
by Mumbleypeg
That’s a fairly rare knife I believe, and aside from the patch it looks to be in good shape (very little blade loss, etc). I’d be tempted to get one of the expert knife mechanics here to re-do the patch and carefully clean it up, then put some renwax on it for preservation. Otherwise I’d just clean it up myself with a pencil lead and a jewelers cloth, renwax it and put it away.

I seriously doubt anyone can replicate that original Remington bone. I’m from the preserve it and change as little as possible school, not the “make ‘em shine” school. I’m sure others will weigh in with other opinions, but that’s what I would do.

Ken

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:56 pm
by Dinadan
That knife is in great condition other than the messed up handle. I would have one of the fellows here who do repair work replace the handles with similar bone. And then put it in my display case!

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:06 pm
by jerryd6818
I'm from the minimalist school of thought. I don't see anything about that knife that warrants anything other than a coat of RenWax and never ending love. JMHO

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:15 pm
by espn77
I'd have someone replace the whole handle. Finding a piece of bone from a donor knife should be fairly easy to find. That's a great knife. ::tu::

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:21 pm
by wlf
I would also get someone whose work you know to redo that patch D. Of course I wouldn’t let them buff it.

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:09 pm
by RalphAlsip
I believe the pattern number of your knife is R6393. The reason I am pointing this out is to piggyback on what Keith espn77 said about finding a donor knife / handle. It is a long shot, needle in the haystack type of idea, but on rare occasions a R6393 will show up on eBay with worn out blades and decent handles. So you might want to create an eBay search for Remington R6393 and hope to get lucky again. The reason I said "lucky again" is because of your $10 purchase price for the knife. :)

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:34 pm
by espn77
To clear up what I meant. Finding a handle from this exact knife probably be looking for a long time. But any old Remington bone could be shaped to fit it.

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:40 pm
by Pile Driver
that was my thought at one time, find a donor knife with a large enough frame to make new sleeveboard scales out of but I would assume any reshaping post bone dying will result in a bleached out more natural bone

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:11 pm
by peanut740
I would get the knife repaired with some original bone.It is in otherwise excellent condition.I have had 3 or 4 of those knives in the past,and a couple would have been good donors.Be patient,you will find something suitable. ::tu::

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:01 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
So here’s 2 more cents worth. My thoughts are about originality. You have a great knife with a long and interesting history and the patchwork is part of that history. Someone who loved that knife and valued it took the time to repair it regardless of the quality of the repair craftsmanship. Rich history...but once you break the seal from original production line work you can never again say it’s original. If you want it for personal use you could do as you please to make it what you want as an EDC. If your looking to resale it for profit... once new work has been accomplished it should never be advertised as an original Remington production knife... it won’t be. I like the knife if you want to sell it...I’ll make you a descent offer to keep it in it’s original condition. Regardless these are our opinions and thoughts. You are the owner in this game therefore the shot caller.JMHO ::handshake:: ::tu::

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:24 pm
by Pile Driver
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-rare ... :rk:1:pf:0

I could see my knife looking nice and shiny like this near mint knife

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:44 pm
by RalphAlsip
Pile Driver wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-rare ... :rk:1:pf:0

I could see my knife looking nice and shiny like this near mint knife
Pile Driver, because your knife retains the blade etching it is more desirable than the eBay knife you shared (IMO).

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:23 am
by peanut740
RalphAlsip wrote:
Pile Driver wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-rare ... :rk:1:pf:0

I could see my knife looking nice and shiny like this near mint knife
Pile Driver, because your knife retains the blade etching it is more desirable than the eBay knife you shared (IMO).
I agree.

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:56 am
by espn77
Mine. Like yours. I have no desire to change it and I think its better than the Ebay knife. He went get his asking price.

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:15 am
by btrwtr
If it were mine I'd do some very light minimal cleaning, remove the old patch and re-patch the handle.
Very nice looking knife other than the patch!

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:13 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
For clarification...
Redoing the patchwork in my opinion does not take away from the production originality... but replacing the scales does because it requires dismantling the knife and replacing specific parts of the knife. This would in my opinion take it out of the category of being an original production line knife.

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:24 pm
by pearlroosterman
I agree, etch way more important. Lightly clean the handles, oil the joints, wipe it down and display. Great knife. Take care, John

Re: bloodgroove whittler opinions

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:28 pm
by Pile Driver
I agree as well, I was being facetious

I'll have to keep searching for a worn out knife with great scales for a good value