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Miller Bros.

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:00 pm
by kootenay joe
Is this Miller Bros. Dog Leg jack a fake ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-MILLER ... 1438.l2649
kj

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:34 pm
by btrwtr
I've seen a number of fakes offered for sale by this eBay seller. I don't like the overall look of the OP knife. Very unusual to have this type of shield pinned so far off center.

Here is a knife that this same seller listed recently. Looks very modern to me. Master blade choil looks bad and pen blade stamped opposite the nail pull.

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:04 pm
by peanut740
Both are fake in my opinion.

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:26 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks for your posts. Your opinion i know is based on a great deal of experience.
I too think "fake", but what seems odd to me is that the seller is SMKW, probably the largest knife retailer in North America. Why are they dealing with fakes ?
kj

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:10 pm
by peanut740
They buy knives,and right now I don't know if they have any one who knows squat about old knives working for them.

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:19 pm
by kennedy knives
peanut740 wrote:They buy knives,and right now I don't know if they have any one who knows squat about old knives working for them.
::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:35 am
by kootenay joe
I am so naive. I would have thought they cared enough to cull out fakes before listing knives from collections.
kj

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:49 pm
by btrwtr
peanut740 wrote:They buy knives,and right now I don't know if they have any one who knows squat about old knives working for them.
This reminds me of an AAPK post some time ago talking about the Case factory knife historian. How much a person knows about what they are doing can be somewhere between all and nothing. In the case of mvpknife sales I have no idea how much the people posting their eBay knife sales know about knives, new or old. Could be they are only reading the stamps and know nothing about reading knives.

I agree kj, they should care enough about their business and reputation to cull out the fakes.

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:46 pm
by Berryb
Did Miller Bros. ever use Celluloid? I don't ever recall seeing one, 'course I havn't seen that many.
Bruce

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:31 pm
by peanut740
btrwtr wrote:
peanut740 wrote:They buy knives,and right now I don't know if they have any one who knows squat about old knives working for them.
This reminds me of an AAPK post some time ago talking about the Case factory knife historian. How much a person knows about what they are doing can be somewhere between all and nothing. In the case of mvpknife sales I have no idea how much the people posting their eBay knife sales know about knives, new or old. Could be they are only reading the stamps and know nothing about reading knives.

I agree kj, they should care enough about their business and reputation to cull out the fakes.
Jay Parker was their old knife guy and he also did the Ebay listings. He got canned over a year ago and since have listed a lot of fakes.

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:00 am
by montemojo
I contacted them and told them the knife wasn't correct. They said we don't knowingly sell counterfeit knives. I told them that the lettering in the tang stamp was rounded and shouldn't be. Also the badge is not one I have seen on a real MBC knife. It looks like one of the fakes I have just to compare with. I'm pretty sure I know who made it.

Monte

Re: Miller Bros.

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:06 am
by montemojo
Bruce, yes they did. Most are office knives but I have one swell end Jack and I seen one yesterday that was a single blade corn knife with an advertising on it. The owner wouldn't sell it to me.