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Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:05 pm
by CampbellAr2
Recently got interested in these after chasing some examples from Queen, in addition to the Camillus that I carried when I was still on active duty.
Looking for examples from Western , Imperial, and perhaps Case...WWII through Vietnam timeframe
Short and sweet,
I am extremely frustrated with the ebay side of the world. While I understand broken back springs are common on these Mil-K knives, the last 2 knives I brought (and am now trying to return) have had them without any mention of the problem in the listing.....
If you need a laugh, The attached pic is what I was sent on this last one is my last example - Nice little something for me to discover when I opened the package.
Thanks!
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:34 am
by eveled
Yep. EBay is difficult for sure.
Military pocket knives are fun to collect.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:30 am
by Gunsil
Nice stash, Eveled!! Here's one of my two unused WW2 Kingston USMC knives and my really rare 1949 Camillus, the first year Camillus made them. Last pic is the back of the 1949 Camillus showing the brass liners which the Kingston and Stevenson WW2 USMC and the 1948 Ulster Mil-Ks all have.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 am
by CampbellAr2
Nice pics!
As I recall, pics of eveled's collection from an earlier Queen discussion started my curiosity on these models
Got 1 more knife enroute which should be a Kingston with the brass bolsters...hope it is intatct
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:14 am
by eveled
Very nice knives Gunsil! The Camillus is a Holy Grail knife for sure.
Glad I could inspire someone to collect these, they are fun, usually not too expensive and just a great overall rugged knife. Good luck on your quest CampbellAr2. I’m not an expert by any means but feel free to ask any questions that pop up.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:14 pm
by Doc B
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:42 pm
by eveled
There are other knives with the same stainless handles (especially from the Kingston era) and other scout type knives that were issued. Somewhat of a rabbit hole, but a fun one.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:21 pm
by Gunsil
I believe the Kingston and Stevenson USMC knives were not made with stainless steel handle scales. They used monel handle scales instead of stainless and the blades were carbon steel rather than the stainless of the later versions.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:50 pm
by eveled
I’ve heard that, but for the life of me I can’t tell them apart! Those old ones with the steel blades seem a lot better made and rarely have the broken springs that seem to plague the Camillus ones.
The older ones have a stud on the can opener I was told that was to held disassemble an m1 Garand?. It was deleted when they realized it was no longer needed.
That was the point I believe quality started to drop at Camillus. Even so the crappiest US made Camillus is light years ahead of any of the off shore ones avaikable now. Current Camillus, Scheffield, Marbles, Colonial all pathetic.
I wish a good US knife company would pick up the model and do it right. Case Buck KA-BAR please !
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:59 pm
by eveled
These are tough ones to find. Not mine not my pictures. If it’s someone here I hope you don’t mind!
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Or maybe they are common but the etches wore off? Too bad they didn’t do a handle stamp for the Scouts.
I always heard the ones with blank handles were for Canadian contracts, but there seem to be a lot of them around.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:38 pm
by Ripster
Hey guys ,just read this post and wasn’t aware of the trouble with Camillus back springs breaking. Is this 1983 Camillus one that is prone to breaking? Thanks for sharing, interesting and good to know .
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:08 pm
by eveled
I don’t know that they really have a problem, just that there were so many made that we see more with broken springs. If it’s not broken now I wouldn’t worry about it.
These were under $10 new, and totally outshine Swiss Army Knives IMHO.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:43 pm
by Ripster
eveled wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:08 pm
I don’t know that they really have a problem, just that there were so many made that we see more with broken springs. If it’s not broken now I wouldn’t worry about it.
These were under $10 new, and totally outshine Swiss Army Knives IMHO.
Thank you E , and yes sturdy knife for the price . Have a good one, be safe .
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:34 pm
by Nephilim
Ripster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:38 pm
Hey guys ,just read this post and wasn’t aware of the trouble with Camillus back springs breaking. Is this 1983 Camillus one that is prone to breaking? Thanks for sharing, interesting and good to know .
I don't know if some years of production are more prone to breakage than others, but yes, the back springs of Camillus military knives seem to have issues. I don't know if this has more to do with long term durability or some other factor related to the tempering of those springs. The best way to avoid that is to only open one tool in one layer at a time. Opening two will flex the spring from both ends at once.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pm
by ScoutKnives
Knives are both mine , I don’t mind you posting them
eveled wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:59 pm
These are tough ones to find. Not mine not my pictures. If it’s someone here I hope you don’t mind!
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Or maybe they are common but the etches wore off? Too bad they didn’t do a handle stamp for the Scouts.
I always heard the ones with blank handles were for Canadian contracts, but there seem to be a lot of them around.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:23 pm
by eveled
Thanks! They are awesome!
I remember being blown away when I saw them the first time. Even with obsession with these knives, I never knew they existed.
Too bad they went with the etch and not a special handle stamp.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:59 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Today I add this pocket knife to my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. It is ONE of my HOLY GRAIL pocket knives. It is a 1949 CAMILLUS, single blade, 3 tool, brass liners, pocket knife. It is in EXCELLENT condition and didn't require any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:53 am
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:59 pm
Today I add this pocket knife to my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. It is ONE of my HOLY GRAIL pocket knives. It is a 1949 CAMILLUS, single blade, 3 tool, brass liners, pocket knife. It is in EXCELLENT condition and didn't require any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Wow Skip, not to many of those around!! And what great shape. Very very nice. Thanks for sharing, what a grail ,how long of a journey to get this one?
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:21 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:53 am
Wow.....
Thank you JP.
It took me approximately 1 year and 10 months to find AND acquire a 1949 CAMILLUS.
I found one last August, but somehow it came off my watch list and I lost it.
Water under the bridge now.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:05 am
by Ripster
Skip ,So a year and 10 months, way to go, it’s very rewarding to achieve something like this, the feeling when you hold it in your hand and slid it in your pocket. Nicely done Sir. Have a great day, and be safe out there .
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:12 am
by Doc B
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:22 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:05 am
Skip.....
Thank you JP.
Stay safe yourself.
Doc B wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:12 am
Thank you Doc B.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:16 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Today I add this pocket knife to my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. It is a 1959 CAMILLUS, single blade, 3 tool pocket knife. A nice companion for the 1949 that I posted here previously, this page. It is in EXCELLENT condition and didn't require any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:12 pm
by eveled
Wow! Another great snag. Great way to end a crappy year. Thanks for sharing. Congrats.
Re: Mil-K, Utility Knives
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:39 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
eveled wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:12 pm
Wow.....
Thank you.