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Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:06 am
by Gone2Three
Howdy again,
Different knife, more questions....
So this little guy arrived in the mail today after a world tour with the USPS lasting 19 days
Was hoping someone here could enlighten me to the numbering system they used and possibly the maker of the knife. I only found one other similar 2 blade pearl with 184 stamp on the bay.
Once again, thanks for helping me on my quest for knowledge
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:09 am
by doglegg
Sweet bones.

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:21 am
by Gone2Three
doglegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:09 am
Sweet bones.
Thanks!

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:29 am
by Ripster
Gone2Three wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:06 am
Howdy again,
Different knife, more questions....
So this little guy arrived in the mail today after a world tour with the USPS lasting 19 days
Was hoping someone here could enlighten me to the numbering system they used and possibly the maker of the knife. I only found one other similar 2 blade pearl with 184 stamp on the bay.
Once again, thanks for helping me on my quest for knowledge
Evening, will throw this at you. Check out the Camillus section, look for other brands thread. Camillus made knives for MANY other Companies ,jobbers ,hardware stores etc. I do believe that Wards, made in the USA, was made by Camillus as well . Don’t quote me on that as my memory isn’t always running on all cylinders.
And the bone looks like the stuff Camillus used.
Nice older piece of cutlery, thanks for sharing that with us
Take care . Happy Holidays
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:36 am
by Gone2Three
Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:29 am
Gone2Three wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:06 am
Howdy again,
Different knife, more questions....
So this little guy arrived in the mail today after a world tour with the USPS lasting 19 days
Was hoping someone here could enlighten me to the numbering system they used and possibly the maker of the knife. I only found one other similar 2 blade pearl with 184 stamp on the bay.
Once again, thanks for helping me on my quest for knowledge
Evening, will throw this at you. Check out the Camillus section, look for other brands thread. Camillus made knives for MANY other Companies ,jobbers ,hardware stores etc. I do believe that Wards, made in the USA, was made by Camillus as well . Don’t quote me on that as my memory isn’t always running on all cylinders.
And the bone looks like the stuff Camillus used.
Nice older piece of cutlery, thanks for sharing that with us
Take care . Happy Holidays
Thank you for the info and compliments on the knife JP, will do... and Happy Holidays to you as well

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:54 pm
by Ridgegrass
Nice knife. I like WARD'S knives and have quite a few. Levine and Price say some were made by UTICA and REMINGTON. Merry Christmas, J.O'.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:17 pm
by peanut740
Never heard that Remington made Wards knives,but Winchester did.

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:42 pm
by stockman
Shield looks Winchester.
Harold
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:27 pm
by FRJ
Here's an old Wards that somebody ground the belly out of.
It's a good strong knife, whoever made it.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:09 pm
by 1967redrider
FRJ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Here's an old Wards that somebody ground the belly out of.
It's a good strong knife, whoever made it.
Great looking knives, GT3 and Joe. Winchester used a lot of Federal shields too.

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:37 pm
by FRJ
Thank you, Redrider.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
by Ripster
stockman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:42 pm
Shield looks Winchester.
Harold
Harold ,could you let me know how to tell that a shield looks like it’s a Winchester. Had no clue that you could tell by the shield . So would the Op Knife be a Winchester ? Appreciate your knowledge and feedback. Thank you.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:07 pm
by Gone2Three
Ridgegrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:54 pm
Nice knife. I like WARD'S knives and have quite a few. Levine and Price say some were made by UTICA and REMINGTON. Merry Christmas, J.O'.
Thank you, and Merry Christmas!

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:08 pm
by Gone2Three
peanut740 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:17 pm
Never heard that Remington made Wards knives,but Winchester did.
Intresting....

either way, it's a winner

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:10 pm
by Gone2Three
FRJ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Here's an old Wards that somebody ground the belly out of.
It's a good strong knife, whoever made it.
That's a nice one Joe!
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:11 pm
by Gone2Three
1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:09 pm
FRJ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Here's an old Wards that somebody ground the belly out of.
It's a good strong knife, whoever made it.
Great looking knives, GT3 and Joe. Winchester used a lot of Federal shields too.
Thank you Redrider,
I'm also interested in the difference between the federal shields that they used like JP mentioned

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:20 am
by Ridgegrass
Peanut: You're right, I misspoke. Meant Winchester. Duh!

J.O'.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:46 am
by 1967redrider
Gone2Three wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:11 pm
1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:09 pm
FRJ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Here's an old Wards that somebody ground the belly out of.
It's a good strong knife, whoever made it.
Great looking knives, GT3 and Joe. Winchester used a lot of Federal shields too.
Thank you Redrider,
I'm also interested in the difference between the federal shields that they used like JP mentioned

Not sure if you can differentiate Winchester Federal shields from others, but if you look at old Winchester knife pictures in one of Sargent's books you will see a lot of them. An observation I had recently.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:49 am
by stockman
Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
stockman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:42 pm
Shield looks Winchester.
Harold
Harold ,could you let me know how to tell that a shield looks like it’s a Winchester. Had no clue that you could tell by the shield . So would the Op Knife be a Winchester ? Appreciate your knowledge and feedback. Thank you.
jp first I have look at a lot of knives, but the big thing is Winchester with this shield is that they are small even on a larger knife. I do think the op knife is Winchester made. Left Winchester right Wards
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:57 am
by Ripster
stockman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:49 am
Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
stockman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:42 pm
Shield looks Winchester.
Harold
Harold ,could you let me know how to tell that a shield looks like it’s a Winchester. Had no clue that you could tell by the shield . So would the Op Knife be a Winchester ? Appreciate your knowledge and feedback. Thank you.
jp first I have look at a lot of knives, but the big thing is Winchester with this shield is that they are small even on a larger knife. I do think the op knife is Winchester made. Left Winchester right Wards
Thank you Harold. Sure appreciate your feedback and willingness to share with us that got aways to go yet . Take care ,stay safe out there.
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:26 am
by Gone2Three
stockman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:49 am
Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
stockman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:42 pm
Shield looks Winchester.
Harold
Harold ,could you let me know how to tell that a shield looks like it’s a Winchester. Had no clue that you could tell by the shield . So would the Op Knife be a Winchester ? Appreciate your knowledge and feedback. Thank you.
jp first I have look at a lot of knives, but the big thing is Winchester with this shield is that they are small even on a larger knife. I do think the op knife is Winchester made. Left Winchester right Wards
Those are some beautiful knives there Harold, really appreciate your time and expertise for this new comer here.
Like JP says, I've got a ways to go in my learning
Merry Christmas everyone!
Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:26 am
by Gone2Three
Ripster wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:57 am
stockman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:49 am
Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
Harold ,could you let me know how to tell that a shield looks like it’s a Winchester. Had no clue that you could tell by the shield . So would the Op Knife be a Winchester ? Appreciate your knowledge and feedback. Thank you.
jp first I have look at a lot of knives, but the big thing is Winchester with this shield is that they are small even on a larger knife. I do think the op knife is Winchester made. Left Winchester right Wards
Thank you Harold. Sure appreciate your feedback and willingness to share with us that got aways to go yet . Take care ,stay safe out there.

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:32 am
by Gone2Three
1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:46 am
Gone2Three wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:11 pm
1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:09 pm
Great looking knives, GT3 and Joe. Winchester used a lot of Federal shields too.
Thank you Redrider,
I'm also interested in the difference between the federal shields that they used like JP mentioned

Not sure if you can differentiate Winchester Federal shields from others, but if you look at old Winchester knife pictures in one of Sargent's books you will see a lot of them. An observation I had recently.
Still trying to acquire the proper literature for the hobby. For Christmas I was able to get myself a used copy of Levine's Guide to Knives 4th edition

Re: Wards made in USA 183
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:15 am
by 1967redrider
Excellent start! Once you hone in on certain makers you like collecting, you'll find brand specific books that go into more detail.