A Perfect Example

[btrwtr]

Here is a perfect example of a terrible fake. This knife has none of the qualities that an old original Schatt and Morgan knife should possess. Note that every edge of the blades are completely rounded off. None of the grind lines are sharp and pronounced as they should be on any factory made knife from the pre WWII era. The stamps on a knife from this time frame are often seen on all blades as displayed in this knife but the deep and rounded edges of the letters ends are a dead giveaway of a fake. The bone handles are also recent production but this can be a nuance that is hard to spot without experience. Three backsprings, a premium name and such fine condition are all quite desirable in an old pocket knife but this knife is not old.

If this knife were a real and genuine article I would consider the current bid of $243 to be a bargain. But since this knife is nothing more than a very poor and recent counterfeit this price is hard for me to imagine. It never ceases to amaze me that people will pay such prices for such terrible knives.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334426319545?h ... Sw9OZib1Wx

[peanut740]

Agreed. Well explained Wayne. Not the 1st turd from this seller.

[beresman]

I continue to be grateful for the knowledge I am gaining from the members of this site. Knives like this are the primary reason I mostly dabble in lower-value (often because they look "old" and well used) knives. I usually don't worry about them looking like new (unless it's from someone I really trust), and if a blade is well worn, chances are better it's original. Not 100%, I realize, but better.

[rea1eye]

"Up for bid is a beautiful 3 back spring whittler in near perfect condition"

Yea the person has a lot of knives for sale.

Thanks for the original post.

Bob

[rea1eye]

(unless it'sy trust) from someone I really know , and if a blade is well worn, chances are better it's original. Not 100%, I realize, but better.

Good rule to go by!

Bob

[Gunsil]

Yah, that's what I call an "across the room fake". Gottla love the CUTLAR CO mark!! That same pattern will be found with other antique knife company marks on it, all made to deceive.

[btrwtr]

I continue to be grateful for the knowledge I am gaining from the members of this site. Knives like this are the primary reason I mostly dabble in lower-value (often because they look "old" and well used) knives. I usually don't worry about them looking like new (unless it's from someone I really trust), and if a blade is well worn, chances are better it's original. Not 100%, I realize, but better.

A wise approach.

[OLDE CUTLER]

The people that buy this stuff are financing the next generation of fakes. They must be buying it to turn it over and find an even more gullible buyer.

[tongueriver]

Seller's response:

[Mumbleypeg]

That response, unfortunately, is typical of too many ebay sellers. Fortunately there are some having the integrity to discontinue a listing, but they are few. For most, “caveat emptor” is the rule.

Ken

[tongueriver]

That response, unfortunately, is typical of too many ebay sellers. Fortunately there are some having the integrity to discontinue a listing, but they are few. For most, “caveat emptor” is the rule.

Ken

Ain't it da truth.

[edge213]

I no longer have it to compare, but if my memory is working that looks like a Winchester 3 backspring whittler made by Queen that I used to own.