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Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:05 pm
by Dullest_knife
Says Germany on back of main blade.
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 1:06 am
by Froe
Since no one else is chiming in, I’ll give you a few thoughts from my mediocre memory.
I seem to recall that back in the 70s(?) there were some German ‘Winchesters’ being sold that were not authorized by Winchester Corp. I have owned two that were extra large trappers with bone handles and bar shields with a rifle stamped in the shields. I think I still have one of them somewhere around here. If I run across it I’ll post a pic. To me, these Winchesters looked a lot like Olbertz production (as in Carl Schlieper/Eye Brand). The ones I saw were not as fancy as the one you show here.
I wouldn’t personally put my hand on the Good Book to swear to any of this, but maybe someone more knowledgeable will speak up. I welcome correction on this.
Froe
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 1:32 am
by Mumbleypeg
I believe Froe is correct. Made by Olbertz. May have been one of the many different (unauthorized) brands Parker contracted to be made there. Looks like the same inked-on GERMANY.
Ken
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:45 pm
by Dullest_knife
Thank you both for the replies, I purchased this and another from eBay within the last year. The more I learn about knives - the more I distrust eBay, I’ll leave it at that. Thanks again ,, Tim
Correction, not eBay , some of its users.
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:38 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Yes there are unscrupulous sellers, and there are ignorant sellers (ignorant meaning uneducated) who either don’t know what they are selling, and/or don’t care. They’re both just out to make a Buck - at the buyer’s expense.
Which is why it is important to be an educated buyer. Education typically isn’t free. Caveat emptor.
Ken
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:40 pm
by Modern Slip Joints
Froe wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 1:06 am
[...] I have owned two that were extra large trappers with bone handles and bar shields with a rifle stamped in the shields. [... that ...] looked a lot like Olbertz production (as in Carl Schlieper/Eye Brand). [...]
Froe
Froe's two huge Winchester Trappers match two I own except the shields on mine commemorate 1776-1976. On ebay the same Trappers with the same bone but with a German brand were bid to about double what I had to bid to buy mine. Mine were about $70 each shipped. I used one enough to be able to write that it has hard carbon steel that holds an edge well. Mine are marked Germany the same as Dullest knife's Barlow so I suspected his was made by Olbertz. Anything I could write about their history would be repeating rumors. However, Olbertz made Bulldogs are expensive well made knives as are the Marbles slip joints Parker had Olbertz make.
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:48 am
by Vit_213
I also have one Germany Winchester
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:32 am
by Ripster
Vit_213 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:48 am
I also have one Germany Winchester
That’s a nice looking knife .
Bone handles ?
Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:21 pm
by Vit_213
Ripster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:32 am
Vit_213 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:48 am
I also have one Germany Winchester
That’s a nice looking knife .
Bone handles ?
Yes.
By the way, I read somewhere that one of the founders of Blue Grass (George Smith or Charles Dorton) was involved in the creation of these knives. And since it was the collaboration with Blue Grass that inspired Bill Howard, then to some extent the Germany Winchesters are the ancestors of the GEC

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Re: Anyone know anything bout this??
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:48 pm
by 1967redrider
Reminds me of the Hickey & Shouse Battle-Axe folders.
