Counterfeits in AAPK store?

[cpstack]

I see plenty of posts about fakes on ebay but does anyone look through the AAPK store and spot fakes? I bought this recently sent it back and got my money back now it's listed again. Maybe it's real, I'm no expert but I couldn't find another like it. After I expressed my concerns he refunded my money after I shipped it back.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... -condition

[Walleye]

I'm somewhat confused by your post. Also I have no idea about that type of knife I have never seen or heard of that brand.

If your money was refunded, perhaps it is "real" but you're still not convinced? Hopefully the seller will chime in with more details.

[Mumbleypeg]

I despise counterfeit knives and counterfeiters, and won’t hesitate to call out any counterfeits I see regardless where they are listed or by whom. I know nothing about the knife you’re questioning so cannot comment about it except to opine that generally sellers on AAPK are “knife people” who have subject matter knowledge. Whereas sellers on eBay may or may not know much if anything about what they are selling, and some are known shysters. Any such crooks won’t last long here.

AAPK sellers can make mistakes and if provided with evidence, have removed listings. It’s rare, but it has happened. If you simply “couldn’t find another like it” that in itself doesn’t mean it’s fake. If on the other hand you know enough about it (construction, stamps, materials, pattern, etc) to explain why you believe it’s fake, please elaborate.

Ken

[bestgear]

Maybe it's real, I'm no expert but I couldn't find another like it

sure looks a lot like this one: https://www.bladehq.com/item--Protech-G ... D7jnPzAEwO

[dlr110]

I see plenty of posts about fakes on ebay but does anyone look through the AAPK store and spot fakes? I bought this recently sent it back and got my money back now it's listed again. Maybe it's real, I'm no expert but I couldn't find another like it. After I expressed my concerns he refunded my money after I shipped it back.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... -condition

I don't normally chime in on things such as this but I did a Google Image search and found that knife either sold or reviewed in over a dozen locations. Tell us what's wrong and maybe someone here can help.

[glennbad]

I see plenty of posts about fakes on ebay but does anyone look through the AAPK store and spot fakes? I bought this recently sent it back and got my money back now it's listed again. Maybe it's real, I'm no expert but I couldn't find another like it. After I expressed my concerns he refunded my money after I shipped it back.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... -condition

For those of us not familiar with the brand, what makes it a counterfeit? We only learn new things through the knowledge and experience of others. It can be dangerous to drop a comment like that and then not continue to engage in the conversation to educate others.

[cpstack]

Thought others were more familiar with Pro-tech knives. Seller even stated that he could not find another like it after I pointed out my concerns, offered a refund and now it's for sale again. Really just trying to make sure nobody makes the same mistake I did.

Don't know how any of this is confusing. After I received it and realized it only had 1 marking on it which was Pro-tech on the edge of knife I was concerned. Any other Pro-tech Godfather you find will have Pro-tech USA on 1 side of blade and 154cm on the other. Searched through hundreds of sites looking at for sale and even sold Pro-tech Godfathers and not a single one matched.

[bestgear]

After I received it and realized it only had 1 marking on it which was Pro-tech on the edge of knife I was concerned. Any other Pro-tech Godfather you find will have Pro-tech USA on 1 side of blade and 154cm on the other.

Thank you, I now see the difference. I don’t know enough about this knife to determine if the different markings are from different periods of manufacturer or not. I’m glad the seller accepted your return and you were satisfied with the transaction. Just curious if you considered contacting the manufacturer for their input?

1037 S. Melrose St. #B
Placentia, CA 92870
562-860-0678
service@protechknives.com

[btrwtr]

I know nothing of Pro-tech knives so I can't comment on this knife and leave that up to people that are better versed in the brand. Aside from that I can tell you that I have spotted a few older knives that were not legitimate here in AAPK stores and reported these knives to administrators. Unfortunately, the stores here are not immune to counterfeits but by in large AAPK stores are a myriad safer place to shop than eBay when it comes to counterfeits. Here on AAPK we should always be diligent when buying but just as with eBay we should realize that all sales of "bad" knives are not being sold by bad people.

[1967redrider]

If you visit the DHGate (I believe) website, there are a ton of modern knife counterfeits, right down to the box. The only way to really tell is by the box bar code.

[glennbad]

Don't know how any of this is confusing. After I received it and realized it only had 1 marking on it which was Pro-tech on the edge of knife I was concerned. Any other Pro-tech Godfather you find will have Pro-tech USA on 1 side of blade and 154cm on the other. Searched through hundreds of sites looking at for sale and even sold Pro-tech Godfathers and not a single one matched.

It's confusing to anybody that doesn't collect or use modern knives or modern autos, like myself.

Thank you for providing some detail, this is the type of information that is valuable for buyers so that they will not get easily taken advantage of.

[ea42]

Aside from markings which can easily be worn off or in some cases be missed at the factory, the biggest red flag I see on that knife when compared to other Godfathers is the handle screws are mounted from the mark side where on all the other factory models I've seen they're mounted from the pile side. I don't know anything about the brand or the history of that particular model so that's just an off the cuff observation. Possibly that was something that was changed at some point in the history of the model? I can't say.

Eric

[Walleye]

Thought others were more familiar with Pro-tech knives. Seller even stated that he could not find another like it after I pointed out my concerns, offered a refund and now it's for sale again. Really just trying to make sure nobody makes the same mistake I did.

Don't know how any of this is confusing. After I received it and realized it only had 1 marking on it which was Pro-tech on the edge of knife I was concerned. Any other Pro-tech Godfather you find will have Pro-tech USA on 1 side of blade and 154cm on the other. Searched through hundreds of sites looking at for sale and even sold Pro-tech Godfathers and not a single one matched.

It looks like you've posted twice on this site since joining just over a month ago. While the images you shared are def. of a pocket knife, in my opinion its quite different than what is usually posted in this forum, i.e. mainly older style slip joint penknives (Case, Remington, Russell, etc.), which are frequently copied and/or cobbled together from a mixture of old, new, and faked parts and sold online and elsewhere, typically with the intention to deceive.

Yes, modern knives are faked as well, but a simple skim through recent postings will support the idea that Pro-tech Godfathers are not a typical brand discussed here. In addition, your first post was not crystal clear, with all due respect. All that said, if you collect modern knives and you run across fakes or questionable items, please continue to share them here. Its just not typical yet. Thanks.

[cpstack]

If DHgate or Alibaba knives are being sold in the AAPK store then I would expect there to be plenty of excited members on this post. Instead I just get responses of how my post is so unclear or how you are all confused.

Plenty of places to buy legitimate knives elsewhere and that's where I will be going forward.

No more covid boosters for y'all. You all definitely have "covid fog".

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If DHgate or Alibaba knives are being sold in the AAPK store then I would expect there to be plenty of excited members on this post. Instead I just get responses of how my post is so unclear or how you are all confused.

Plenty of places to buy legitimate knives elsewhere and that's where I will be going forward.

No more covid boosters for y'all. You all definitely have "covid fog".

I think you summed things up perfectly in your first post when you said "I'm no expert."

[New_Windsor_NY]

..... I will be going forward.

I.....

This "gentleman", cpstack, is no longer a member of the AAPK family.
He is "going forward."

[bestgear]

I.....

This "gentleman", cpstack, is no longer a member of the AAPK family.
He is "going forward."

I took care of that yesterday after his snarky retort. The gentleman has no clue what level of scrutiny takes place in policing both the forum and the stores (well maybe he does now )

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I.....

This "gentleman", cpstack, is no longer a member of the AAPK family.
He is "going forward."

I took care of that yesterday after his snarky retort. The gentleman has no clue what level of scrutiny takes place in policing both the forum and the stores (well maybe he does now )

Good bye, and good riddance.

[Mumbleypeg]

As Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) said to the corpse of Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone

You’re no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung.

Ken

[glennbad]

Geez, all we asked for was a little context to his remarks (for us un-educated about modern knives). Didn't think that was anything to get upset over...

[Reverand]

I.....

This "gentleman", cpstack, is no longer a member of the AAPK family.
He is "going forward."

I took care of that yesterday after his snarky retort. The gentleman has no clue what level of scrutiny takes place in policing both the forum and the stores (well maybe he does now )

Thank you. Your hard work and diligence helps to keep AAPK a friendly, knowledgeable place!

[edge213]

As Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) said to the corpse of Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone

You’re no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung.

Ken

Ken, I realize this is off the topic, but my son brought back a reproduction of a Tombstone newspaper when he visited there. In the newspaper accounts of what was going on around the time of the famous gunfight. It wasn't Johnny "Ringo" it was Johnny "Ringgold". I always thought it was "Ringo".
Ps, he also brought me back a hand forged knife from the blacksmith currently at the OK corral.

Sorry for the derailment of this thread

[Mumbleypeg]

As Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) said to the corpse of Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone

You’re no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung.

Ken

Ken, I realize this is off the topic, but my son brought back a reproduction of a Tombstone newspaper when he visited there. In the newspaper accounts of what was going on around the time of the famous gunfight. It wasn't Johnny "Ringo" it was Johnny "Ringgold". I always thought it was "Ringo".
Ps, he also brought me back a hand forged knife from the blacksmith currently at the OK corral.

Sorry for the derailment of this thread

I’ve read that before about his name being Ringold but most accounts call him Ringo. Also speculation that it wasn’t his real name. There’s a lot of mystery around his death. No one knows for sure how he died, whether he was shot and killed in a gunfight (and by who), or committed suicide. I'm a longtime subscriber toTrue West magazine which has published many articles about him. Seems every year or two some researcher finds some new information and writes an article. Doc Holliday killing him is one possibility but most believe that’s more legend than fact. But, like the quote from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”

Ken

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As Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) said to the corpse of Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone



Ken

Ken, I realize this is off the topic, but my son brought back a reproduction of a Tombstone newspaper when he visited there. In the newspaper accounts of what was going on around the time of the famous gunfight. It wasn't Johnny "Ringo" it was Johnny "Ringgold". I always thought it was "Ringo".
Ps, he also brought me back a hand forged knife from the blacksmith currently at the OK corral.

Sorry for the derailment of this thread

I’ve read that before about his name being Ringold but most accounts call him Ringo. Also speculation that it wasn’t his real name. There’s a lot of mystery around his death. No one knows for sure how he died, whether he was shot and killed in a gunfight (and by who), or committed suicide. I'm a longtime subscriber toTrue West magazine which has published many articles about him. Seems every year or two some researcher finds some new information and writes an article. Doc Holliday killing him is one possibility but most believe that’s more legend than fact. But, like the quote from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”

Ken

And when TV and movie producers get ahold of something and change it to suit the times.