US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

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US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby PvtRossi » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:24 pm

Greetings all,

I know that 1944 saw the adoptiong of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose. However, I have not been able to determine exactly what pocket knives would have been in use prior to that to regular GIs that were not specialized engineers, signal corps men, linemen, paratroopers etc.
I have searched the internet but I was able to find info here and there, very confused and sparse information.
I am sure soldiers were able to acquire commercial pocket knives through private channels, but I am also guessing the Army contracted some commercial companies to supply them.

So my question is: what pocket knives, either private purchase or Army contract, would have been used by regular GIs (not engineers or signal corps or paratroopers etc) prior to the introduction of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose?

Thank you all for helping me out.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby New_Windsor_NY » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:05 pm

Hi and ::welcome:: to AAPK. First, I am not an expert or even slightly knowledgeable about anything to do with cutlery.
That being said, the knife below was my father's. He was a Technical Sergeant in the U.S. Army Air Corp from 1942 to 1945.
He was stationed in Iceland 1944-1945. When he received this knife, I have no idea. I'm sure someone will be along at some point and help you out much better than I can. If you find out what years are involved with the tang stamps that are shown, you might be able to narrow it down. Good luck, Skip. ::tu::
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Quick Steel » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:23 pm

Welcome aboard. ::handshake:: Hope you will spend time here and share photos etc. I think it is likely that someone with the specialized info you need will eventually be along.

Skip, that is a very fine looking knife. ::tu::
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby New_Windsor_NY » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:30 pm

Quick Steel wrote:Welcome aboard. ::handshake:: Hope you will spend time here and share photos etc. I think it is likely that someone with the specialized info you need will eventually be along.

Skip, that is a very fine looking knife. ::tu::


Thank you Quick Steel. The handle on the other side is completely missing.
I'd like to eventually get it repaired. :D
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Gunsil » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:25 pm

Skip, your knife made by New York Knife Co could have been made no later than 1931 when the company went out of business. It is not an issued army knife, NYK just put that shield on there for marketing purposes. They are usually regarded as WW1 era knives but I have seen no info as to when they ceased making them. Your dad must have gotten it from somebody or somewhere before the war. I will have to dig around to find the earlier WW2 general purpose pocket knife, although I think others probably have photos of them already. There were no pocket knives issued to US troops before WW2 although the US Navy did issue folding knives since the mid-late 1800s.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby New_Windsor_NY » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:31 pm

Gunsil wrote:New Windsor, your knife made by New York Knife Co could have been made no later than 1931 when the company went out of business. It is not an issued army knife, NYK just put that shield on there for marketing purposes. Your dad must have gotten it from somebody or somewhere before the war. I will have to dig around to find the earlier WW2 general purpose pocket knife, although I think others probably have photos of them already. There were no pocket knives issued to US troops before WW2 although the US Navy did issue folding knives since the mid-late 1800s.


Thank you for the information. I never asked my father about it. It was always in his workbench drawer. It could very well have belonged to my grandfather at some time also. I'll never know, but it's a nice knife anyway.
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby bdev » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:32 pm

PvtRossi wrote:Greetings all,

I know that 1944 saw the adoptiong of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose. However, I have not been able to determine exactly what pocket knives would have been in use prior to that to regular GIs that were not specialized engineers, signal corps men, linemen, paratroopers etc.
I have searched the internet but I was able to find info here and there, very confused and sparse information.
I am sure soldiers were able to acquire commercial pocket knives through private channels, but I am also guessing the Army contracted some commercial companies to supply them.

So my question is: what pocket knives, either private purchase or Army contract, would have been used by regular GIs (not engineers or signal corps or paratroopers etc) prior to the introduction of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose?

Thank you all for helping me out.


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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Paladin » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:08 pm

bdev wrote:
PvtRossi wrote:Greetings all,

I know that 1944 saw the adoptiong of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose. However, I have not been able to determine exactly what pocket knives would have been in use prior to that to regular GIs that were not specialized engineers, signal corps men, linemen, paratroopers etc.
I have searched the internet but I was able to find info here and there, very confused and sparse information.
I am sure soldiers were able to acquire commercial pocket knives through private channels, but I am also guessing the Army contracted some commercial companies to supply them.

So my question is: what pocket knives, either private purchase or Army contract, would have been used by regular GIs (not engineers or signal corps or paratroopers etc) prior to the introduction of the Knife, Pocket, General Purpose?

Thank you all for helping me out.


This is a great book on the subject....
https://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Knives-Un ... oks&sr=1-2

I also strongly recommend Silvey's book.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby knife7knut » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:49 am

I was told that this Pal easy open is possibly a WWII issue pocket knife but I cannot confirm it so far. A similar model with a manicure secondary blade was a WWI issue as I understand.I have one each of those by W.R.Case and Schatt & Morgan. The Case has had the master blade drastically modified.
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby ScoutKnives » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:33 am

I have a very early Remington with acorn shield R3322 with USA on the shield . The C4 Remington catalog called it their Army knife .
I would date the knife in the late teens or early 20s .
Sorry for the bad picture, it’s all I have on file right now .

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Gunsil » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:57 am

Scout, since Remington didn't start making knives until 1920 how could any have been from the teens?? Other than bayonets Remington never made any knives for the armed forces, and those bayonets were WW1 or earlier.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby ScoutKnives » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:17 pm

I believe the first year for Remington pocket knives was late 1919 but I could be wrong and I believe this knife to be very early . It also has the first generation tang stamp .
Either way it’s old and I’m only aware of a handful known to exist .

Gunsil wrote:Scout, since Remington didn't start making knives until 1920 how could any have been from the teens?? Other than bayonets Remington never made any knives for the armed forces, and those bayonets were WW1 or earlier.
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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:50 pm

This Robeson two blade Easy Open Jack is stamped only "U.S.A."on the master blade. In this case, that stands for United States Army.

This Robeson three blade Scout/Utility is marked "U.S.A." on the shield. Three blade army issue knives are not common.

This four blade Scout/Utility is seriously considered to be an issue item.

Robeson also made the STEVENSON marked all metal four blade Scout/Utility knives. They were marked only on the bail. As you can see, the Stevenson retains the proprietary Robeson cap-lifter/can-opener and short screw-driver blades, so this knife predates the MIL-K requirements for the later knives. They did, however, utilize the required blades in their later Stevenson knives.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Gunsil » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:35 pm

Charlie, does that all metal knife have brass liners? I had thought that all the military issue Stevensons had US MARINE CORPS on the scale just like the Kingstons.

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Re: US Army Pocket Knives of WWII

Postby Gunsil » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:37 pm

PvtRossi, here is a WW2 era Camillus utility knife made for the army. The USA on the shield is for US Army. These and ones by other companies were what preceded the all metal MIL-K knives. These would have been general issue knives, that is not made for specific units like the Ulster mountain troop knives. On the Robesons Charlie shows the USA on the tang is for US Army.

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