Chinese Marble

Whether we like them or loath them, Chinese manufactured knives have found their way into collections of all sorts across the entire globe. The intent of this forum is to offer a place where AAPK members can discuss the knives and not the politics.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Dinadan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:23 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:
TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Mel - I'm pretty sure the Chinese knife factories are just like all the rest of the Chinese manufacturing plants in other industries - they are typically not owned by the brand - they are contract factories that will make for anyone with a set of specs. They might have some in-house designers and "stock" products that they can put anyone's logo on, or the customer might start with a stock design and ask for changes and tweaks, or the in-house designers might create entirely new products for a customer, or the customer might come to the factory with a complete set of specs and the factory just builds to those specs. All are possible and common in the industries I know about.

It is also not unusual for a successful contract manufacturer to eventually decide they have the chops to sell products under their own brand name. That's risky because now they are competing against their own customers, and there is a big difference in the cost of support between being a contract manufacturer and actually doing wholesale or retail sales.

It is really hard to tell what brands are just importers, which are designers & importers, and which actually own designs and the factories.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure it matters anymore. I think we just have to evaluate the products for what they are - regardless of how they were produced or who produced them.
As a consumer, the risk you run here is the Brand decides to switch vendors (for what ever reason) and the new vendor doesn't make the product as well as the old vendor. It's all a crap shoot.
I did not notice that this thread had been reactivated and that TFL had responded to something that I posted, albeit with a two year time lapse. Regarding the shift of vendors and varying product quality: I recall Sears Craftsman tools being the subject of exactly the same discussion back in the 1970s. One time you might get a tool made by a top quality maker, but next time the same tool could come from a distinctly inferior manufacturer.

It would be interesting to see what companies actually own the factories where their knives are made. I never thought much about that until I joined this forum. Now, it seem a bit odd that a brand with the recognition of Fightn' Rooster or Bulldog, or Rough Rider, can be created by making orders to overseas factories and good marketing. But! I felt pretty much the way about Craftsman when I learned that Sears really did not own a whole slew of factories making all the stuff they sold as Craftsman.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by deltaboy » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:23 am

I got a new Marbles Stockman and it nice! ::tu::
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:51 pm

Marbles knives are good. I love the cuttin horse they have. Sowbelly stockman’s are already my favorite, but a cuttin horse is the absolute best. I only see Marbles and Hen and Rooster making these lately.
Every Marbles knife I have owned was worth every penny I paid for it. But my favorites are all made in the USA. I am still collecting USA Marble’s slip joints if you know anyone who has any the don’t want any more.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by onehikes » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 am

When Marbles went bankrupt in 2009 I ordered several knives like folding hunters and trappers that were China produced. I was surprised by the fit, finish, edge and price. Quality control was good. It would never replace US made Marbles, but I enjoy using them and not worrying about abusing them.

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Butch53pig » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:25 pm

What do y'all think of the newer marbles mr109 swing guard, Case cheetah clone, is it safe/worth the $20? Appreciate all options. Thanks. Butch

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Nev52 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:29 pm

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Just got this Marble's Cattle Knife. Nice fit and finish. ::groove::

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by bighomer » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:03 am

My latest Marbles , I reckon it makes a full set of this series. ::shrug::
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by cudgee » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:58 am

bighomer wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:03 am
My latest Marbles , I reckon it makes a full set of this series. ::shrug::20201102_165932.jpg
Nice set. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: :D :D :D ::ds::

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:04 am

I think the Chinese made Marbles are among the best value for your money. All very nice.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by bighomer » Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:17 pm

Thanks fellers. ::tu:: ::handshake::

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by samb1955 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:41 am

Chinese kni es sure have come aways from what they used to be. Some are pretty pricey too!

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by cody6268 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:38 am

samb1955 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:41 am
Chinese kni es sure have come aways from what they used to be. Some are pretty pricey too!
Say what you will (and even I'm really critical of them), but I think Chinese knives now; are up to the point where they were with Japan in the 1980s. You've got some crap (Frost; a lot of store brands; thousands of unknowns), you've got great knives for the money (Sanremu, most import Kershaw and CRKT, Ganzo); and you've got very expensive high-end brands (AG Russell, Artisan, Kiser, etc.).

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by PigStikr » Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:43 pm

I have a couple of those Cattle knives that I got a few years back they are a nice value..don't think they are in production now
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by bighomer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:02 pm

PigStikr wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:43 pm
I have a couple of those Cattle knives that I got a few years back they are a nice value..don't think they are in production now
Ole smokey has got some red jigged bone cattle knives on their wed site.
My newest Marbles, white smooth bone.
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