Picked up an older Schrade but can't find any info

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Picked up an older Schrade but can't find any info

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Was at a gun and knife show today. Saw this old gal hanging in a box looking a little lonely. Guy had $20 on it, offered him $12, he took it, so I brought her home. I seem to remember something about the K-77 shield but I can't remember what it was exactly. Additionally, the pile side stamp says 825. I've always thought the 825 was a 3 bladed knife. Any of you guys know anything about the knife? The tang reads Schrade Walden, then Stainless below that and then NY USA below that. It also has Razor Blade Stainless etched on main blade. Thanks in advance for any help.
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D&B,

That's an odd one. It's more like this 893 of mine...

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I have seen the "K-77" on quite a few Schrades over the years...

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Glenn,
It does look quite a bit like yours. The bolsters are different. I do have a 104OT that is tang stamped 108OT, so it's not like it couldn't be mis-stamped. For $12, it's a keeper for sure. Thanks Glenn.
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Marc,
Looking through some old catalogs did not help me find your knife.

You are right, the 825RB (Razor Blade Stainless) was a three blade knife. It was last listed in the catalogs in 1988. I believe that it was an old Schrade Walden pattern, but I don't know if it goes as far back as Schrade Cut Co.

I don't see any two bladed patterns in the catalogs (post 1973) that are 3-9/16 inches. Can you tell if a blade has been removed?

I don't have an answer for you. Maybe it was a lunchbox knife. Perhaps LT can enlighten us both.

Here is a pic from the 1975 Shortline catalog of the 825RB. Always remember, anything is possible with Schrade. :lol:

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Hey Dale,
That was the first thing I looked for because I do have a 825 already. There are no blades missing in this knife. Of course, I liked the K-77 on the shield as I didn't have an example of that. Additionally, the etch is not like the one listed. It is simply spelled out " Razor Blade Stainless." Does the tang stamp give us a general time frame of the knife and then perhaps a change in knives, going from a 2 to 3 blade? Just wondering if Schrade changed the looks of knives while keeping the same number. I'm learning real quick that there is neither rhyme nor reason to why Schrade did a lot of stuff but I think that's why I enjoy collecting them.
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I did find a similar knife in the Belknap catalogs, one from 1955 & one from 1970.

The one form 1970 is not a serpentine. The one from 1955 is a serpentine 2 blade jack, but at the bottom of the page it says, "These knives are from Germany" or something to that effect.

The 1970, Primble, I think was probably made by Schrade Walden, as they made quite a few Primbles.

The 1970 is the right size frame, but the serpentine German is 1/16" too short in the frame, which could probably be over come by a skillful repairman. That still does not explain the K-77 shield.

::shrug:: I am scratching my head on this one! ::hmm::

Bryan: We need a head scratching Smiley!

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Cool knife, very cool price, ducks! I believe that "K-77" has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it- -still looking. What else did you find at the show??
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Hey upnorth,
This was a different show....the one I was thinking of is in 2 weeks. I also picked up an 807UH (needed one for my collection), a scrim from Scrade honring the 175th anniversary of the American Flag, 2 NIB Camillus, a couple of nice case knives, an old Wards knife and got my first Schatt and Morgan. Good show, but spent way too much.
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Dale, it does look similar to the first picture but on my knife, the blades are reversed. You're right, we do need a head scratching little fella. At the very least, it's an unusual find (for me anyways).
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Hello - I'm new here. My name is Russell. I have been visiting this site to learn a little about some knives I am selling for a client. I was researching this 2 blade Schrade 825. I found this thread and wanted to say I have the exact one as well.

Here are the URL's to the front and back photos.



http://www.kitsapauction.com/ebay/walden1.jpg

http://www.kitsapauction.com/ebay/walden2.jpg
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The K-77 was a SFO from the 60's. It was made for Norm Thompson Outfitters. I have a magazine ad around here somewhere but I can't seem to find it.

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I have a couple of the same knife frame and blades, one is a K-77. They are stamped 893 and 825. The 893 I believe is carbon. The 825 is stainless, and generally a three blader in that pattern number.
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