Lunch Today

[tjmurphy]

Today for lunch we had Delux Chicken Sandwich and Waffle Fries from CHICK-FIL-A and it was great. I support family values and I support the right to not support other values!

[johnny twoshoes]

Headed there today myself.
Hopefully we don't get any combat from the other side.

I'm not a fan of that sort of thing.

[jerryd6818]

Interesting you should post this today T.J. I just got an email with a copy of The Weekly Standard in it. A conservative "paper" if the content is any indication. The following was the main article. Agree or don't. It's your choice and that's really what the first amendment and a free nation is all about.


COLD OPEN

In case you missed it, what with the Olympics and the campaign and continuing awful economic news, the last few weeks have seen the Democratic party waging war on yet another American institution: Chick-fil-A.

Chick-fil-A is the nation’s finest purveyor of fast food—chicken sandwiches and chicken nuggets served with waffle-cut fries and lemonade in a mélange of goodness so wonderful it ought to be a sin. Chick-fil-A is a family-owned company, based in Atlanta, and its current president is Dan Cathy, the son of S. Truett Cathy, who founded the restaurant in 1967. The Cathys are a good, God-fearin' people who put their money where their Bibles are; Chick-fil-A foregoes millions of dollars a year in profits because it's always closed on Sundays, so as to observe the Lord’s day of rest.

Last month Dan Cathy was asked about his views on same-sex marriage by a Christian newspaper. He said that he was against gay marriage and "guilty as charged" in his support of traditional marriage. And so the floodgates opened.

The deluge began when Boston mayor Tom Menino sent a letter to Cathy warning his company to abandon its plans to open stores in town. "There is no place for discrimination on Boston’s Freedom Trail," Menino thundered, "and no place for your company alongside it."

Next came Chicago, where mayor Rahm Emanuel warned the company to stay away and one of the city's alderman, Joe Moreno, openly admitted that he was going to deny the company's applications to open restaurants in his ward.

And then there was San Francisco, whose mayor Edwin Lee wrote that the closest Chick-fil-A "to San Francisco is 40 miles away & I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer."

When Washington’s corrupt mayor Vincent Gray started speaking out against Chick-fil-A, it was almost an afterthought.

There are many lessons in this little incident. One, for instance, is about the ways in which government can bully businesses—can you imagine elected officials publicly announcing that they were going to willfully and capriciously deny a company permits to operate?

Then there's the lesson about the left's commitment to the First Amendment: They'll fight to the death for an artist's right to be paid by the government to desecrate a crucifix, but a private citizen espousing a view which was held by President Obama three months ago? That's intolerable in the public square.

But for my money, the biggest lesson is about the differing responses from the left and the right to competing worldviews.

You see, just before Dan Cathy admitted that, as a private citizen, he held a view supported by half his countrymen, the heads of Google announced that they were devoting the publicly held company’s financial resources to a worldwide gay-rights campaign to "Legalize Love."

The folks at Google were not speaking as private citizens, understand. They were using their shareholders' money to undertake direct action in service of a view which is held by about the same percentage of people as its opposite.

And you know what didn't happen? The governors of Texas and Mississippi did not announce that all public computers will now have their web browsers reset so that Bing is the default search engine. YouTube was not banned on computers in Salt Lake's city hall. No major figures called for boycotts of Google.

I don't mind the left's pushback on Chick-fil-A—this is how you have big, national debates about important issues—except that the street only runs one way.

One final example: Another big, national chain, Office Depot, recently announced a partnership with Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way Foundation.” The foundation’s ostensible goal is to encourage bullied teens, though with a strong sub rosa message of gay rights and acceptance.

Without rendering any verdict on the foundation's work—and I think we can all agree that kids shouldn't get bullied for anything, not for being short or smart or awkward or gay—this doesn't seem like a natural philanthropic fit for Office Depot, a publicly held company that makes its money selling paperclips to other businesses.

So why in the world would Office Depot risk alienating any of its potential customers by embracing a cause that might, in any way, be seen as signing on to a particular ideological agenda?

Because the street only runs one way.

Can you imagine Office Depot joined forces with, say, a crisis counseling group which steers pregnant teens away from abortion? Even though both causes are, technically, non-ideological?

Me neither.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Interesting that the mayor of Boston, Mr. Menino, had no problem with granting public acceptance to the construction of a mosque, costing millions of dollars, in his city, while one of its board members openly advocates the killing of gays and lesbians and transgender individuals. He's in a bit of a quandary, though, he cannot decide if gays should be burned, or thrown from very high places.

I guess Menino had no problem with that view.

I guess he had no problem with the POTUS holding the same opinion of marriage as does Dan Cathy, up until he decided it was politically expediant for him to swith sides, so to speak. (Yes, the lisp was intentional)

Country's going to Hell fast guys.

Charlie Noyes

[big monk]

EAT MOR" CHICKIN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jerryd6818]

One of my best buddies has the habit of saying, "The problem is..." and I always tell him, "That may be one of the problems but I don't believe there is any one problem which is The Problem."

I believe the prevalence of moral turpitude is a major, major problem in this country and maybe even "The Problem".

[tjmurphy]

Interesting you should post this today T.J. I just got an email with a copy of The Weekly Standard in it. A conservative "paper" if the content is any indication. The following was the main article. Agree or don't. It's your choice and that's really what the first amendment and a free nation is all about.


COLD OPEN

In case you missed it, what with the Olympics and the campaign and continuing awful economic news, the last few weeks have seen the Democratic party waging war on yet another American institution: Chick-fil-A.

Chick-fil-A is the nation’s finest purveyor of fast food—chicken sandwiches and chicken nuggets served with waffle-cut fries and lemonade in a mélange of goodness so wonderful it ought to be a sin. Chick-fil-A is a family-owned company, based in Atlanta, and its current president is Dan Cathy, the son of S. Truett Cathy, who founded the restaurant in 1967. The Cathys are a good, God-fearin' people who put their money where their Bibles are; Chick-fil-A foregoes millions of dollars a year in profits because it's always closed on Sundays, so as to observe the Lord’s day of rest.

Last month Dan Cathy was asked about his views on same-sex marriage by a Christian newspaper. He said that he was against gay marriage and "guilty as charged" in his support of traditional marriage. And so the floodgates opened.

The deluge began when Boston mayor Tom Menino sent a letter to Cathy warning his company to abandon its plans to open stores in town. "There is no place for discrimination on Boston’s Freedom Trail," Menino thundered, "and no place for your company alongside it."

Next came Chicago, where mayor Rahm Emanuel warned the company to stay away and one of the city's alderman, Joe Moreno, openly admitted that he was going to deny the company's applications to open restaurants in his ward.

And then there was San Francisco, whose mayor Edwin Lee wrote that the closest Chick-fil-A "to San Francisco is 40 miles away & I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer."

When Washington’s corrupt mayor Vincent Gray started speaking out against Chick-fil-A, it was almost an afterthought.

There are many lessons in this little incident. One, for instance, is about the ways in which government can bully businesses—can you imagine elected officials publicly announcing that they were going to willfully and capriciously deny a company permits to operate?

Then there's the lesson about the left's commitment to the First Amendment: They'll fight to the death for an artist's right to be paid by the government to desecrate a crucifix, but a private citizen espousing a view which was held by President Obama three months ago? That's intolerable in the public square.

But for my money, the biggest lesson is about the differing responses from the left and the right to competing worldviews.

You see, just before Dan Cathy admitted that, as a private citizen, he held a view supported by half his countrymen, the heads of Google announced that they were devoting the publicly held company’s financial resources to a worldwide gay-rights campaign to "Legalize Love."

The folks at Google were not speaking as private citizens, understand. They were using their shareholders' money to undertake direct action in service of a view which is held by about the same percentage of people as its opposite.

And you know what didn't happen? The governors of Texas and Mississippi did not announce that all public computers will now have their web browsers reset so that Bing is the default search engine. YouTube was not banned on computers in Salt Lake's city hall. No major figures called for boycotts of Google.

I don't mind the left's pushback on Chick-fil-A—this is how you have big, national debates about important issues—except that the street only runs one way.

One final example: Another big, national chain, Office Depot, recently announced a partnership with Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way Foundation.” The foundation’s ostensible goal is to encourage bullied teens, though with a strong sub rosa message of gay rights and acceptance.

Without rendering any verdict on the foundation's work—and I think we can all agree that kids shouldn't get bullied for anything, not for being short or smart or awkward or gay—this doesn't seem like a natural philanthropic fit for Office Depot, a publicly held company that makes its money selling paperclips to other businesses.

So why in the world would Office Depot risk alienating any of its potential customers by embracing a cause that might, in any way, be seen as signing on to a particular ideological agenda?

Because the street only runs one way.

Can you imagine Office Depot joined forces with, say, a crisis counseling group which steers pregnant teens away from abortion? Even though both causes are, technically, non-ideological?

Me neither.

That's not exactly how the interview went. See here for that interview: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/all-da-king-s ... e-1.323637

[jerryd6818]

EAT MOR" CHICKIN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't Monk. No Chick-fil-As in this part of the country and the yard bird from Colonel Sandbox makes me fat (er).

[orvet]

EAT MOR" CHICKIN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't Monk. No Chick-fil-As in this part of the country and the yard bird from Colonel Sandbox makes me fat (er).

No Chick-fil-a where I live either.

[jerryd6818]

"Why do disagreements now turn into hatefests, protests, boycotts, and attempts to harm those whom we disagree with ?"

Sigh.

[philco]

"Why do disagreements now turn into hatefests, protests, boycotts, and attempts to harm those whom we disagree with ?"

Sigh.

Divide and conquer. satin's been employing that strategy for ages. First thing that Adam did was blame Eve after the fall.

[glennbad]

Did you see where they tried to have a Kiss-in protest yesterday? I mean, what were they trying to say by that? The same group of people that want to be recognized and "have a voice" are trying to quiet other people's voices.

It's not like Chick-fil-A tries to hide it's religious stance. I mean, they're closed on Sunday.

I think these big city Mayors have really stepped in it with their stance as well. In a time of down economy, they're telling a business that they don't want them to come in and provide employment and tax revenue. That's going all in. Ya know what? I can play that game too. Maybe I was going to go into Boston and spend a bunch of my hard-earned money to support their local economy. But now, because I don't agree with Menino's stance, maybe I will spend my hard-earned money in my local community instead. I doubt my little bit of money will make a big impact on anything, but if enough people feel that way, it could.

This hypocrisy from a mayor that doesn't want Chick-fil-A, but gave city land to Muslims so they could build a Mosque. What does the muslim religion say about homosexuality??

Okay, I'm done ranting. Perhaps, I will make a visit to my local Chick-fil-A this weekend to exercise my first amendment rights. (and my beltline)

Glenn

[Bacon Lover]

"Why do disagreements now turn into hatefests, protests, boycotts, and attempts to harm those whom we disagree with ?"

Sigh.

Divide and conquer. satin's been employing that strategy for ages. First thing that Adam did was blame Eve after the fall.

Hey Phil, is "satin" the name of an exotic dancer. I'm not afraid of her. LOL

But seriously, what's wrong with a "kiss-in", unless it's your cousin you are kissing. (said with tongue firmly implnted in cheek)

Hey wait, that was a kiss joke.

Peace all

[ironmage]

wow i have never bin but it sure sounds good.

[glennbad]

"Why do disagreements now turn into hatefests, protests, boycotts, and attempts to harm those whom we disagree with ?"

Sigh.

Divide and conquer. satin's been employing that strategy for ages. First thing that Adam did was blame Eve after the fall.

Hey Phil, is "satin" the name of an exotic dancer. I'm not afraid of her. LOL

But seriously, what's wrong with a "kiss-in", unless it's your cousin you are kissing. (said with tongue firmly implnted in cheek)

Hey wait, that was a kiss joke.

Peace all

Nothing wrong with a kiss-in. I'm all about free speech. I just think their message was misguided.

Glenn