CASE BRADFORD 62096

[zp4ja]

So I have this knife, CASE BRADFORD 62096. I think.

A few concerns, may be unfounded, hence posted in this forum.

Knife is 3-1/8" closed. Mainblade is probably short/reprofiled. In comparison, to the TESTED era 62096 pic in Sarge's 7th, nail nick is in a different location. Bolster length seems to match. Main balde has no snap either way but does have some "tension" to it, smooth action but no snap, if that make sense. In other words, if you held the knife upside down with the blades to the ground, the blade would swing out of the closed position. Pin location looks correct.

The diamond shield does NOT have raised letters, another concern based on what reference material I read. Shield does not appear to be countersunk into the handle also.

Knife does not appear to have been taken apart, best I can tell. Hard for me to tell on some of the old knives if they are authentic sometimes, what the norm was, or if certain anomalies existed for a particular knife, etc.

Knife also has the TESTED XX Oval stamp. As I dont have any others knives with this stamp and the diamond shield, don't have any in hand comparison to refer to.

Your input is appreciated as always. Regards, Jerry

[msteele6]

I personally haven't seen a diamond shield with raised letters.

[Ramrod]

Sorry Jerry.
Mark

[zp4ja]

Hey MSteel. I have not seen one either and I don't have another knife with this shield to compare to. Here is the forum link that says the letters are raised. The pic of the shield is so small though and I cant blow it up, can't tell for sure, but it does say "raised letters". Part of my concern on the knife based on this.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/wr_ ... hields.php

Hey Mark,

Nothing to be sorry about as "it is what it is".

Just curious what you don't think is authentic about this knife?

Thanks Gents! Jerry

[Ramrod]

Jerry,
You are right, it is what it is, I just didnt want to sound like an ahole.
The following are only my observations and opinions. They are not worth much, so take them as such.
NOTHING about the blades look old to me. At least from the tang on up. Any evidence of them being welded? The nick looks wierd. I dont know how else to explain it.
The bone doesnt look like bone Case used. Again just based on other knives I've seen.
The shield does not look like other Bradford era diamond shields I've seen.
The pins should be peened, not spun, especially not with a huge spinner that digs into the bone on every pin.
Lets see what the people who KNOW think.
Mark

[zp4ja]

Hey Mark,

I definitely would not have thought you were a ahole. I appreciate you taking the time to look and provide your opinion as it is valued.

The knife is 3-1/8". Same length as the TESTED i see in my books. Bolsters look to match the TESTED era example in Sarge's.

Certainly not disagreeing with the fact she may be a fake. That is why I posted in this forum. You do bring up some very valid observations in my opinion, I appreciate it.

Blade is not welded and some obviously cleaned the crap out of the blades. The mainblade is short and the nail nick location concerned me as well but I think the look of the mainblade and nick are exacerbated due to the blade having been tipped and reprofiled. Due to the shape of the frame, if the nick was much farther back, you would not be able to catch it with your fingernail when the knife is closed. Seems like a logical location for the nick when looking at it knife in hand but still, I did not like that aspect when I saw it also.

On the bone, you could be right. Hell, I don't know, that's why I posted it.

Great point on the pins.

Don't matter to me either way, fake or real. But of course I want it to be real but wanting it isn't going to change matters. I just don't like the not knowing for sure either way part.

If it is fake, it is going to get the 12 guage double ought treatment.

Thanks again Mark. Regards, Jerry

[Jacknifeben]

Here are some pictures of my CASE BRADFORD.

[zp4ja]

Thank for posting JACKNIFEBEN!

What is the closed length?

Can't blow up your pics but the letters in the diamond shield sure as hell don't look raised.

Looks like you a a 1 blader. Choil and bolsters look similar. Nail nick location is similar but not a dead on match,. I would assume though that back when these era knives were made, that there might be some variance due to the individual cutler, fact that I would think they were not made by a precision machine (I assume due to era and available technology), etc. What is her length?

Still unsure about this knife.

Thanks much, Jerry

[Jacknifeben]

61096 measures 3 1/8 inches closed.

[PACKLEAD3R]

Hello

May I ask is that what I have here. I believe so.

Thank you for your time
James

[ludwig26]

Looks like the shield sets on top the bone instead of being let into the bone.
Looks like a legit knife to me that’s been rehandled.
Hard to find in any condition. Try finding anything from 1915 that hasn’t been worked on.
I think it is a keeper.
Kerry

[Mumbleypeg]

It may indeed be a 62096. But it’s not a Case Bradford as is stated in the OP title. Not sure if that’s what you’re asking. I’m gonna disagree with Kerry - handles and shield look original to me.

Ken

[1967redrider]

Not to derail, but whatever happened to Jerry (zp4ja)?

[ludwig26]

It may indeed be a 62096. But it’s not a Case Bradford as is stated in the OP title. Not sure if that’s what you’re asking. I’m gonna disagree with Kerry - handles and shield look original to me.

Ken

I was going off the pins look spun deep into the bone and the shield looks like it’s setting on top the bone. That’s what made me think it’s been re handled.
I only have 4 or 5 pre Tested era knives so not much to work with.
Kerry

[PACKLEAD3R]

Thank you for your opinions. I appreciate both. I got it as is in a lot of Knives. I adjusted to regain Snap tightened the week knife back up. It's working well now.

Again I do appreciate the feedback

James

[PACKLEAD3R]

It would say Bradford on the blade stamp i assume?

[PACKLEAD3R]

Oh And yes sir/ ma'am that was my question.

[Mumbleypeg]

Yes if it’s a Case Bradford it would say Bradford on the tang. The knife is a Case Tested, as it says, which was after the Case Bradford era. I’d guess it to be an early Tested knife based on the “Tested in a circle” stamp on the secondary blade tang.

Kerry, no offense intended - I’m just saying what it looks like to me based on the pictures. I see some inletting of the bone around the shield so it’s not completely on top of the bone. The bone and shield are very pocket worn, the bone being softer than the shield, it possibly wore down more adjacent to the shield. Spun pins are common on Tested era knives. JMO, but I’ve been wrong before.

Ken

[ludwig26]

Yes if it’s a Case Bradford it would say Bradford on the tang. The knife is a Case Tested, as it says. I’d guess it to,b3van early one based on the “Tested in a circle” stamp on the tang.

Kerry, I’m just saying what it looks like to me, based on the pictures. The bone and shield are very pocket worn, spun pins are common on Tested era knives. I can see some inlet around the shield, so it’s not completely on top of the bone. JMO, but I’ve been wrong before.

Ken

I’m lost again. The knife I looked at in the first pictures said Bradford on the tang I thought. Owe well I did it again.
Lol kerry

[Mumbleypeg]

Yes if it’s a Case Bradford it would say Bradford on the tang. The knife is a Case Tested, as it says. I’d guess it to,b3van early one based on the “Tested in a circle” stamp on the tang.

Kerry, I’m just saying what it looks like to me, based on the pictures. The bone and shield are very pocket worn, spun pins are common on Tested era knives. I can see some inlet around the shield, so it’s not completely on top of the bone. JMO, but I’ve been wrong before.
I must be looking at the wrong knife. In the first pictures the tang says Bradford. I’m lost again.
Lol Kerry
Ken

It is a little confusing. There are two different knives and two different discussions in this thread. The first knife was posted back in 2012 and that’s one discussion. Then the thread was revived today by James (Packleader) with a different knife posted, and different questions. My comments are directed to the second knife.

Ken

[ludwig26]

Yes if it’s a Case Bradford it would say Bradford on the tang. The knife is a Case Tested, as it says, which was after the Case Bradford era. I’d guess it to be an early Tested knife based on the “Tested in a circle” stamp on the secondary blade tang.

Kerry, no offense intended - I’m just saying what it looks like to me based on the pictures. I see some inletting of the bone around the shield so it’s not completely on top of the bone. The bone and shield are very pocket worn, the bone being softer than the shield, it possibly wore down more adjacent to the shield. Spun pins are common on Tested era knives. JMO, but I’ve been wrong before.

Ken

Yes if it’s a Case Bradford it would say Bradford on the tang. The knife is a Case Tested, as it says. I’d guess it to,b3van early one based on the “Tested in a circle” stamp on the tang.

Kerry, I’m just saying what it looks like to me, based on the pictures. The bone and shield are very pocket worn, spun pins are common on Tested era knives. I can see some inlet around the shield, so it’s not completely on top of the bone. JMO, but I’ve been wrong before.
I must be looking at the wrong knife. In the first pictures the tang says Bradford. I’m lost again.
Lol Kerry
Ken

It is a little confusing. There are two different knives and two different discussions in this thread. The first knife was posted back in 2012 and that’s one discussion. Then the thread was revived today by James (Packleader) with a different knife posted, and different questions. My comments are directed to the second knife.

Ken

No offense whatsoever takin.
Kerry

[RalphAlsip]

Oh And yes sir/ ma'am that was my question.

Knife looks authentic and well used to me. Here are some examples of the Case Bradford marking.

[espn77]

Not to derail, but whatever happened to Jerry (zp4ja)?

I just talked to Jerry on the phone. He is well in Nevada, enjoying the Republican, gun, knife totten life. He said to tell everyone hello and dont let the liberals take over the sight. Those are his words.....

[peanut740]

Not to derail, but whatever happened to Jerry (zp4ja)?

I just talked to Jerry on the phone. He is well in Nevada, enjoying the Republican, gun, knife totten life. He said to tell everyone hello and dont let the liberals take over the sight. Those are his words.....

[zp4ja]

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Not sure those were my words but I sure as heck hope it don't go there.
That said, thanks for asking John. I am well. Will be back soon. Been busy with life and as much as I love knives and carry two XX and one 70s sweethearts daily, fell down the list of priorities.
Still have my collection. Just been laying low.
Jerry