Schrade Walden 225H

[waggo71]

Just picked up a very nice 225H, estimate it to be late 50's early 60's vintage (please let me know if there is a way to dial that in any tighter based on tang stamps or other methods). This particular 225H is missing the one the one thing that makes it an "H"...there is no lanyard hole. Now I have heard a thing or two about Schrade not always being overly concerned with small details like that, and having some experience with Detroit automobiles I can only imagine that this occurred in much the same way that my '79 Pontiac ended up with and Olds engine in it...any thoughts on how common a practice this was?

[thawk]

Just picked up a very nice 225H, estimate it to be late 50's early 60's vintage (please let me know if there is a way to dial that in any tighter based on tang stamps or other methods). This particular 225H is missing the one the one thing that makes it an "H"...there is no lanyard hole. Now I have heard a thing or two about Schrade not always being overly concerned with small details like that, and having some experience with Detroit automobiles I can only imagine that this occurred in much the same way that my '79 Pontiac ended up with and Olds engine in it...any thoughts on how common a practice this was?

So I'm assuming yours is stamped 225H? It would be nice if you could post a picture. There were both 225 and 225H patterns made. I've seen a lot of Schrade knives with minor stamp errors, although not as many during the Walden era.

The 225 was made from 1953 to 1978
The 225H was made from 1957 to 1875

The vintage Schrade Walden knives have the really excellent carbon steel.

[tongueriver]

The 225H was made from 1957 to 1875

[tongueriver]

The first Schrade Walden 225 hunters had either bone or "Fibestos" (a black jigged composition) handles and 5 pins. The master blade was saber ground. I do not show a pic of one of these knives here.
Next in chronology was the hunter with saber ground master blade, shackle hole and 3 pin handles. The handles could be bone (before 1960) or jigged DuPont Delrin plastic (after 1960). I show these two examples in the bottom of the enclosed pic. Next in chronology, and much more common, the master blade has become flat ground. This is the top knife in the pic. Sometime in the mid months of 1973, the word "WALDEN" was removed from the tang stamps. I do not show a pic of one of these. They are the most recently made and possibly the most commonly seen. I have seen Schrade hunters with no shackle hole through the bolster, but there is a corresponding hole through the liners. I believe that this is the case amongst the "scrimshaw" examples. Meanwhile, the old-timers did not call the ring for the bolster holes a "bail." They called it a shackle. Bails are the handles for pails and buckets.

[waggo71]

Here are some pics prior to cleanup, not that much was required. Based on comparison pics already posted this looks like knife one but without the hole. I'm not convinced that this was a mis-stamp as much as it was a case of somebody just grabbing a handful of blades from the wrong pile during assembly...

[thawk]

Meanwhile, the old-timers did not call the ring for the bolster holes a "bail." They called it a shackle. Bails are the handles for pails and buckets.

Reminds me of when a knife sheath is called a scabbard...

[ea42]

How about when scrimshaw is called crimshaw?

[tongueriver]

Do any of you remember "Little Derlin" by the Diamonds (1957)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaHPgTdF1g

[thawk]

How about when scrimshaw is called crimshaw?

Almost beats Sandbar Stag...

[ea42]

Sandbar and derlin, yes, two unique covers .

Cal, that bone 225 is awesome!

Waggo you're probably right, wouldn't be hard to miss that little H. They may also have run out of blades with no H and had to substitute the H blades to fill an order.

Eric