Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[jerryd6818]

Concealed carry or obvious carry? You decide.

http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/

[tjmurphy]

You know, I just don't care which it is, just wish they made one for the Glock 19 (medium frame) They are pretty nice.

[jerryd6818]

T.J. -- I don't know diddley about Glocks. Isn't the 19 a pretty popular weapon? Is the 19 a lot larger than the 26, 27 & 33 they do make holsters for?

[tjmurphy]

The 19 is a compact, about 2X the size of the one shown in the ad.

[rangerbluedog]

Here's a pic of the 26 on the bottom, and 23 on the top. 23 is the same frame size as the 19.
About 1/2" difference in barrel length IIRC.
Looking at the dimensions on their website, even the 26 would be a tight fit. I don't think mine would fit with the extended magazine.

[zp4ja]

Thanks for the link JerryD!

Wouldn't fit my lifestyle or needs, not that I don't pack a sidearm often. To each his own. May cater to a small niche of gun owners. Heck, I am looking into getting a "tag" for a noise surpressor for my SIG 226 and lots of guys might think that is over the top so not here to judge. Legality concernes me due to the following...

I say concealed on this one. Still on your person and firearm is not even slighty exposed. I would venture to say in any state that would constitute a concealed weapon and would require a permit to carry in that holster. Looks like a non LE conceal holster that might fit into a environment where you have a permit, are allowed to carry as to not God Forbid startle the masses. Or for a non uniformed cop that is wanting to carry without the jacket but if I was a cop, would prefer open carry for faster access and the visual deterent. If I am a civilian with a permit, concealed hip holster would be just as fast to deploy and less obvious in my opinion.

In the FAQ section, not one reference to legality is made. I don't even see a disclaimer on "Check your local laws" although I may have missed it. If you don't have a permit, I would not plan on walking around town with this one.

I do like the bullet brick cases alot though.

Thanks much for providing the link Jerry. Just my 2 cents overall.

Regards, Jerry

[FRJ]

I have something similar for concealed carry. I don't want anyone to know I'm carrying a gun.
I have used this holster at flea markets; honestly, it's the only environment I feel comfortable using it. Actually that IS the only place I've used it. To me, it screams the obvious, but I am glad to have it. I like options.

[Unk]

I have my Dad’s old shotgun – a Remington Model 11. It’s basically the same as a Browning Auto 5 with a few minor differences. Mine was made in 1924, and my Dad bought it sometime around 1970 (it was already close to 50 yrs old when he bought it!!). It’s the first shotgun I ever fired, when I was around 10 or 11, and the gun I hunted with while I was growing up. Needless to say I won’t ever part with this one.

Browning made them as the Auto 5 , while Remington made them as the Model 11. Remington made them for the US Army in WWII as Trench guns. I think Savage was also licensed to make them as their Models 720 / 745 / 750.

The last time I had hunted with it was back around 1990, and it hadn’t been shot since then. I took it apart a couple of years ago, and noticed the barrel band was bent and the bracket was coming loose from the barrel. This comes from someone not getting the magazine capped screwed on tight (me), so I haven’t wanted to shoot it in that condition.

Anyway, I started looking for a new barrel for it, as I thought it might be cheaper than having the old one repaired. I wanted one with an Imp. Cyl choke, and a rib. Those are pretty hard to come by for these old guns. After a couple of months of looking a nice one popped up on e-bay, and I snagged it. Interestingly, the solid ribs on these old barrels are machined from a single piece of steel on the barrel – i.e. the ribs are not welded on. I will probably still send the original barrel off and get it repaired. The original barrel has an old poly-choke on it, and the serial number matches the frame, so I want to keep it original. The whole gun isn’t worth maybe $150-$200, but it’s part of the family.

Neither Dad or I had ever taken this thing apart to clean it, as it is pretty complicated. I used a Youtube video to help me get it apart, cleaned, and back together on Friday. It was amazingly clean on the inside, but the firing pin spring was broken when I disassembled it. I looked on the internet for a replacement, but they don’t make that particular (short) spring anymore, so I used the spring from a ball point pen to make another one.

I took it with me when I shot sporting clays on Saturday. She cycled great! We ran about 25 shells through it. Me and my buddy were laughing that we were hitting the clays better with this 90 year old shotgun than we were with my new Citori or the Versa Max. haha. You know - I have shot this old gun more than any other in my life, and I don’t remember it ever jamming – not once in the 40 yrs we have owned it. And it’s built like a tank.

Here’s some pics of it. In the first pic you can see the gun, and next to it the original barrel with the the old poly choke. The second pic is a close up of the bent barrel bracket. Judging by the wear on the inside of the ring where it slides on the mag tube, it was fired in this condition for a long time.

And below is a slow-mo video of a Model 11 firing (not mine) – notice how far the barrel slides back to cycle the action. Old John M. Browning was a pretty amazing gun designer – and he stated that this design was his greatest achievement.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Ivg6qdSmc[/youtube]

[FRJ]

Great old gun, Unk. I also have my dads Model 11.

[Old Hunter]

Unk, that is a great old Remington Model 11 Sportsman you have there - glad you can keep it running. Have you ever seen an "American Browning"? I owned this 16 gauge for awhile (a gun collector buddy has it now) - they were made by Remington for Browning in the USA after the Nazis overran Belgium early in WW-II. The USA was still in a pre-war period but could no longer get Belgian made Auto 5 shotguns imported, so Browning contracted with Remington to modify the Model 11 with the cutoff device and mark the guns with Browning's name for sale in the USA. This one was very near mint when I found it in a pawnshop. OH

[Unk]

Thanks Guys

Old Hunter, that's a beautiful old 16. Someone kept that one in nice shape! I knew that Remington had picked up making the Brownings for America during WWII, after the Nazi's took over FN.

My son has a really clean 1967 Browning Auto 5 Magnum 20ga made by FN.

I am just finishing up reading "John M. Browning: American Gunmaker". A really good read if you can find a copy. There is quite a story around this shotgun, including the breakup with Winchester, the CEO of Remington having a heart attack and dieing while JM Browning was waiting to meet with him, and then his eventual trip to Liege to get FN up and running with it. The folks in Liege pretty much worshipped John Browning - they called him "The Master".

http://www.amazon.com/Browning-John-M-B ... pd_sim_b_3

[FRJ]

Unk,
that's a good read.
I liked the part where he said to his wife, something like, "well, I think I'll go out to the shop and whip out another gun"

[Colonel26]

Two John Browning designed guns are set to arrive at the lgs or me tomorrow! Both are Ithaca 37's. one is a 1952 16 gaue tat will complete a set from 1952. The other is a 12 gauge 37R (sold rib) with 30 inch modified barrel!

I'm excited!

[treefarmer]

Colonel26, I don't blame you for being excited, them 37's are great! I've traded for 2 and bought a 12ga. as a gift for my son. He shoots left handed so no issues with ejection. But sorry to say I've traded the other 2 off and do have some regrets . The 20ga. turned into a Rem. .243 over 25 years ago and the 16ga. ended up turning into a Win. 95 (30/40), not too bad a trade but you can't shoot dove birds with a model 95.
Treefarmer

[Unk]

Colonel

Show us some pics of those puppies.

[Colonel26]

I will guys! They're my favorite shotguns, and I'm right handed too.

I'm almost finished putting together three sets, one for each boy, a 12, 16, and 20 all from the same year. One set is from 1948, another from 1951, and another now complete from 1952.

[Colonel26]

Here's the first one guys! It's a 1949 Ithaca model 37R (solid rib) 12 gauge. Other than the corners and the action arm there's almost no blueing loss, no rust at all, and its slick as all get out! It's also unique in that it is a 30 inch barrel, but is factory choked modified! It had to be special ordered that way.

The best part is that with shipping and insurance......... $300. I used up all my lucky dog mojo on this one.

[Unk]

Very nice, Colonel

[zp4ja]

Real pretty pump there Wade!

[treefarmer]

When I was a kid, probably 10 or 12 years old, I saw an ad for a miniature pistol in one of Dad's Field & Stream magazines. Can't remember the price, but somehow I ordered the little thing, complete with a supply of pin fire cartridges. I can't remember if they were blanks or had a ball in the little pin fire cartridge . They did shoot and make a noise and soon I was out of ammo and that was the end of that.
Fast forward 55years +/_ and look what I found among my worldly possessions! The little pistol, it breaks open with a release on the side and the hammer cocks and drops with the pull of the trigger. The bore is 1/16", a .0625 caliber. It has "Germany" stamped on the side with scrollwork on the all metal frame.
I guess my dear old mother gathered some of my junk and saved it when I went to Parris Island, now if I could only find my baseball cards !
Treefarmer

[Unk]

Treefarmer, I know folks want "small and light" for concealed carry, but that's taking it too far!

Cool little gun!

[Unk]

Here's a link to some old copies of "Guns" Magazine from back in the 1950s and 1960s. Some neat old articles....and the ads are really interesting.

You can change the year in the URL to see the different years. I goes back to 1955, and up to at least 1963, with a few years missing.

http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1955issues/

[RobesonsRme.com]

For a bit more info on the miniature pinfire pistols, enjoy a visit to this site:

http://antiquesicollect.com/MiniaturePinfirePistols.htm

Charlie Noyes

[jerryd6818]

Very cool Phil and really neat that you found it after all these years.

[zp4ja]

Great links Gents. Cool lttle find On the mini gun.
Going thru some stuff, found these old air rifle ammo options.
Ahh, the days when a kid could have a air rifle and not be considered militant, but just a kid....

Also found a cool little full tin of persussion caps made in West Germany.