Camillus rehandle suggestions (New Project)

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Miller Bro`s wrote:I am going to move this thread to the knife repair forum ::tu::
No problem.
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When I am trying to save the handles I will use try to gently tap the pins out of the handles from the inside of the liner.
It is harder with a pinned shield, but I have been able to do it if the bone is not too fractured.

I use a micarta block with a small (3/16" or 1/4") hole in it. The block helps support the bone when I tap the pin back out & into the hole. It just helps minimize any flex in the bone and prevent cracking.

That is the method I use.
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orvet wrote:When I am trying to save the handles I will use try to gently tap the pins out of the handles from the inside of the liner.
It is harder with a pinned shield, but I have been able to do it if the bone is not too fractured.

I use a micarta block with a small (3/16" or 1/4") hole in it. The block helps support the bone when I tap the pin back out & into the hole. It just helps minimize any flex in the bone and prevent cracking.

That is the method I use.
Yeah. If I really wanted to save the scale I would have done that but since the back scale was broken I wasn't too concerned.
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And some more work tonight.

Starting to come together pretty nice. One note that I would do differently is to not countersink as much as I did on the shield. You can see the ring around the pins.
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Holes drilled in scale. Rough fit with pins and shield.
Holes drilled in scale. Rough fit with pins and shield.
Side view of rough fit.
Side view of rough fit.
I used an Xacto knife to scribe around the shield so I can make shield flush with top of scale.
I used an Xacto knife to scribe around the shield so I can make shield flush with top of scale.
Used a dremel tool to hog out the bone between the scribed lines.
Used a dremel tool to hog out the bone between the scribed lines.
Pins peened, handle and shield attached.
Pins peened, handle and shield attached.
Side view showing that shield is flush. Took a lot of patience to get it to this point.
Side view showing that shield is flush. Took a lot of patience to get it to this point.
Pins filed and sanded and perimeter sanded close to liner using disk sander. Pissed I can still see the pins in the shield. Don't want to sand too much more or I might sand away the words.
Pins filed and sanded and perimeter sanded close to liner using disk sander. Pissed I can still see the pins in the shield. Don't want to sand too much more or I might sand away the words.
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Looks like it is coming together pretty well so far ::tu::
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This is a great thread. I'm gonna try one sometime. Thanks. 8)
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Nice job, Rex! I sure wouldn't worry about the shield pins - you see many knives with the
same "rings" in there shields... just fine sand and polish er up. (sandpaper wraped around a popsicle stick keeps things flat)

BTW ~ NICE pics and discriptions!

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Looking good! ::tu::
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Coming along nicely!
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Thanks for all of your words of encouragement. It's keeping me going even after the Oops I made today. See if you can tell what I screwed up.
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Filed a square cutout for the can opener tab on the front scale.
Filed a square cutout for the can opener tab on the front scale.
Now to work on the back scale. Cleaned up the back liner.
Now to work on the back scale. Cleaned up the back liner.
Scale rough fitted.
Scale rough fitted.
Holes drilled. Pins peened. Handle attached.
Holes drilled. Pins peened. Handle attached.
Used the formed front scale as a guide to scribe a line on the bone so I could sand to this line.
Used the formed front scale as a guide to scribe a line on the bone so I could sand to this line.
Edges sanded close to where they need to be using the disk sander. I'll use a file later to bring the edges to the liner.
Edges sanded close to where they need to be using the disk sander. I'll use a file later to bring the edges to the liner.
Had to drill out the spring holes, two of the blades and the liners to 3/32" For whatever reason the spring pin and the pin on the opposite side of where the bail should be were .088" diameter and the bail pin was already 3/32". Couldn't find an .088" diameter pin.
Had to drill out the spring holes, two of the blades and the liners to 3/32" For whatever reason the spring pin and the pin on the opposite side of where the bail should be were .088" diameter and the bail pin was already 3/32". Couldn't find an .088" diameter pin.
Sanity check.
Sanity check.
Scribed lines on the top of the rear scale to use as guides for the punch nail pull clearance.
Scribed lines on the top of the rear scale to use as guides for the punch nail pull clearance.
Clearance for nail pull filed in with a half round file.
Clearance for nail pull filed in with a half round file.
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Apparently it's a 10 picture maximum for each post. Had one more picture:

Filed the edges to give them a radius to match the bolster contours. All surfaces are close to where the final surface should be. I'll use sandpaper to finish it up. I'll probably wait until it's assembled to do the final sanding.

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rexstubbins wrote:See if you can tell what I screwed up.
The pin hole was too large?

Starting to look like something now ::nod:: ::tu::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:
rexstubbins wrote:See if you can tell what I screwed up.
The pin hole was too large?

Starting to look like something now ::nod:: ::tu::
Not too large but in the wrong place.

After I drilled the first hole I realized there wouldn't be enough handle material near the top to make a nice oval pattern. There would have been a flat. Of course then I realized the flat would have been where the nail pull cutout would be so it wouldn't have mattered. By this point I had drilled the second hole. Doh!

I'll try to put a bit of clear epoxy mixed with cow bone dust inside the hole.
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Had a chance to work on the beast for a bit again today.

Only 2 pictures today. I was at the point of assembling the knife so I started with the front scale, 1st spring, screw driver, & can opener. I don't have what everyone calls a spring compressor so I used my imagination. I put the pin through the screw driver and the spring first. I then placed the can opener where it should go and used the vice to squeeze the can opener against the spring and then popped the "bail barrel" pin in.

Let me tell you. This was beginners luck. I made the mistake of seeing if the blades opened and closed and the can opener popped off. It took me damn near an hour to line up the hole again to put it back. ::dang::

After another half an hour of clamping, hammering, & pressing I was finally able to get all pins in. Next step is to make some shims before I start peening.

P.S. "Pretty close to needing that bail now 0078."
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Beginners luck.
Beginners luck.
All the pins in. Yippee.
All the pins in. Yippee.
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Looking good ::tu::

Just go easy when you start hammering on the pins, especially the bottom pin, I would hate to see you crack or chip off that nice bone.
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Looking good ::tu::

Just go easy when you start hammering on the pins, especially the bottom pin, I would hate to see you crack or chip off that nice bone.
You ain't spose to say that out load ::uc:: :shock:
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PigSticker wrote:
Miller Bro`s wrote:Looking good ::tu::

Just go easy when you start hammering on the pins, especially the bottom pin, I would hate to see you crack or chip off that nice bone.
You ain't spose to say that out load ::uc:: :shock:
Yeah Dimitri. You tryin' to jinx me?
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No, not me.

I`m not superstitious :wink:
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Thankfully. Even though Dimitri tried to jinx me I peened the center pin & no cracks. ::groove::

Pictures below of today's progress.
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Made some shims out of feeler guages. Seems like this is what everyone does so I followed.
Made some shims out of feeler guages. Seems like this is what everyone does so I followed.
Shims inserted.
Shims inserted.
Put a lab coat over the subject for protection and clipped the pins short.
Put a lab coat over the subject for protection and clipped the pins short.
Filed the heads of the pins flat. I found that it's best to have them flat before peening. I also filed them so there was only about half the diameter of the pin left above the bolsters.
Filed the heads of the pins flat. I found that it's best to have them flat before peening. I also filed them so there was only about half the diameter of the pin left above the bolsters.
After the peen. Side 1.
After the peen. Side 1.
After the peen. Side 2. (Sounds like a good album title.)
After the peen. Side 2. (Sounds like a good album title.)
After the haft. Side 1
After the haft. Side 1
After the haft. Side 2. (Another album title?)
After the haft. Side 2. (Another album title?)
Sandpaper & Flitz lovin'. Side 1.
Sandpaper & Flitz lovin'. Side 1.
Sandpaper & Flitz lovin'. Side 2.
Sandpaper & Flitz lovin'. Side 2.
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Miller Bro`s wrote:No, not me.

I`m not superstitious :wink:
Me either. Just messin' with ya.
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It looks great!

How many oz. is your piening hammer?
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Miller Bro`s wrote:It looks great!

How many oz. is your piening hammer?
16.
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WOW! :shock:

I was told the 7oz. hammer I am using was too heavy :lol:
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Miller Bro`s wrote:WOW! :shock:

I was told the 7oz. hammer I am using was too heavy :lol:
Yeah. I thought about the weight of it as being too heavy but I didn't put much muscle into it. I let the hammer do the work. I like the larger size because it seems easier to control for me anyway.
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Yep, what ever works best for you is all that matters ::tu::
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