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Mumbleypeg wrote:Yer gonna like that one Gino! I've had one just like it for a couple of years. Excellent defensive handgun. The M&P Shield is great also.Ken
gino wrote:Thanks guys! I just ran 100 rounds through her and I am very pleased, fairy accurate using Federal 115 grain. Over all I really dig her and the 12 round factory clips she came with are a perfect number for edc.
What shield are you referring to Ken, I am lost there.

Very cool Gino! Congrats! 12 rounds for a compact (I assume it is a compact) is awesome. May have to check one out. I have the same model in .22 but only shot it once. Need another 9mm and another .45.

Pick up some nice Danner hunting boots today and a Harris Bi-pod Model 25CS for my .30-06. Slight sticker shock especially for the bi_pod but I need it and quality (and probably the name) costs money.

I haven't bought a knife in 11 months (not that I need another except for one) and now I know why.

Picked up 480 rounds of .30-06 and 340 rounds of .243 Hornady 'American Whitetail' Interlock Ammo. Good price at Scheels. Basically cleaned off the shelf. A devastating game round for sure. Here is today's booty. Post the Bi-Pod later as it fits the area need I will hunt in.

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Jerry she is a compact and 12 rds in the clip was a selling point for me
Thanks Ken, I looked at the shield as well but if I recall its a bit bigger although slimmer due to its single stack clip mostly and holds10 rds? I liked the few xtra rds with the MP 9C
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Jerry, the Shield is a semi-automatic handgun in the S&W M&P line, available in both 9 mm and .40. It's got a little longer grip length than the compact but it's a single stack magazine and therefore thinner, both the grip and the frame/muzzle, than the compact. It's also a little shorter barrel length. Of course you give up a few rounds capacity in trade for the thinner size, but I find that and the lighter weight to make an amazing difference in comfort of carry and ease of concealment. Practically forget it's there and in fact easily carried in a minimalist OWB holster with untucked shirt. The grip length gives the shooter a good grip and very good ergonomics. Of course firearms are a lot like knives in that they're subjective as to personal taste, which is why I never buy one without handling and if possible shooting it first.

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Ken, cleared it up and sorry I miss spoke before the shield carries 7 rounds

Shield weighs 19 OZ
9C weighs 21.7 OZ (Specs from S&W site)

But then ad 5 xtra rounds in the 9C and it is a bit heavier
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Here's a blast from the past. Smith & Wesson model 15. (.38 Special)
Made in 1971. These had the wide target hammer, adjustable rear sights, high profile front blade, and grooved trigger.
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Blue that's a great gun.

I don't think you can beat a good revolver and that is a good one. ::tu::
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Blue, that's a real fine looking revolver. I'm a fan of wheel guns and .38 special in particular.

I have a S&W model 65 in .357. But I really like shooting the .38's instead. I save the .357's for my Marlin 1894c. But truth be told the .38's are fun out of it too!
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Blue, that's a real beauty there. Very nice.
I've got a model 19 in 6". I want a 19 in 4".
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gino wrote: the shield carries 7 rounds
Gino, 7 rounds is correct for the standard mag. Also comes with an extended mag that holds eight rounds (plus one in the chamber with either option). The Shield's grip, although thinner, is longer than that of the compact. With the Shield's standard mag I can get two fingers around the grip, with my pinkie curled under it. I prefer the extended mag myself, as in addition to the extra round, I get a full three fingers around the grip. Some feel the extended mag is more likely to "print" when carried concealed. I haven't found that to be an issue myself. It's so thin, with a holster that pulls it against the body it just disappears. IMHO for a self defense weapon you can't go wrong with either the compact or the Shield. Just a matter of personal, and situational, preference.

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FRJ wrote:I want a 19 in 4".
I had one but gave it to my son. That was in fact the second one I had. The first I bought brand new and later sold it. ::dang:: ::dang:: ::dang:: The one I gave to my son, I bought used.
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Dug this out of my shop the other day in order to make a wall mount for it. Bought this many years ago as a DEWAT(DE-activated War Trophy).They did this by removing a section of the receiver with a saw.A friend of mine made up a tubular section to fit in the area that had been removed.It cannot be fired as the receiver is not welded and there is no bolt for it.
Can't remember the maker offhand but it is French and made during WWII supposedly for paratroopers which explains why it folds up so compactly.The handle rotates 189 degrees and locks into where the magazine slips in and the barrel slides back into the receiver.If it were operational the bolt would have to be in the open position in order for the barrel to slide in.This makes for a faster deployment when going to use it;just fold the stock around and lock into position;extend the barrel and slide in a clip and it is ready to fire.
I believe it is 9mm although there is no markings as such.The twist in the barrel grooving is clearly visible from the outside indicating that it must have been fired for extended periods of time.To make it operational again(besides being illegal to do so)would require the skills of a talented gunsmith and finding the proper parts so it will remain an interesting wall hanger and nothing more.
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........k7k, that's neat!!!.....I know I've seen these in some WW2 movie, but I can't remember which one!!!.....maybe "the longest day"???.............. ::facepalm:: ................
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I had never seen one of those so I did a little research.

It's a French made Hotchkiss Universal SMG chambered for 9mm. "It was put into production in 1949, and saw only very limited sales. It was originally designed in 1949 as a semiautomatic-only police carbine, but after being released it was quickly refitted as a select-fire submachine gun. However, the gun ended up being too expensive and complex to achieve any real commercial success. Some wound up in Indochina, and some sales were made to Venezuela and Morocco, but that was about the extent of the Universal’s production. Interestingly, there are a few of these guns that were imported into the US as live semi-auto carbines."

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Thanks for checking into that Jerry;I was under the impression it was WWII vintage.Interesting that it was available as a semi-auto as well.
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Ain't no thing Ray. I see stuff I've never seen before and if it's interesting, I get curious and want to know more about it.
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Very cool piece Ray. Congrats on a great wall hanger. Would love to get ahold of a 9mm carbine. Eyeing a new production one at the moment.

Thanks for the video JerryD. I figured the grip was hollow for folding.

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Here is the Harris Bi-Pod I picked up. $129 but a necessity. Attaches to front stud mount where the sling was and then has a sling attachment on it. This one extends from 13-1/2 inches to 27 inches or anywhere in between. With all the sage brush in the field here, the extra height is needed to clear that, unless I am on a hill or something. This model actually has a 'cant' adjustment screw that can be locked down once the cross hairs are leveled in the very likely event it is placed on uneven ground. The last pic top view shows what I mean as the rifle is deliberately "canted" all the way to one side on flat ground for purposes of illustration.

Can be used prone possibly depending on the situation but really meant for sitting or crouching position. Tested out in back yard with no firing of course and holds pretty steady to a known 650 yard target.
I need to test at the range of course and hope I don't end up on my back side or pulling the trigger with the rifle butt mounted on bone (absolutely no padding or recoil buffer on butt at the moment) based on new to me firing position. Will have to practice.

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Would love to hear some opinions on Charter Arms revolvers. I own S&W and Colt wheel guns and noticed a Charter Arms snub nose something ::shrug:: and got to wondering about them. I've been told they are reliable but are not really slick finished. Does any one have any experience with these revolvers?
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Jerry that's an awesome looking set up there.

TF, daddy has had a little Charter Arms .22 for years. It doesn't get shot much, but seems to be a decent little gun. It doesn't have the f/f that my Smith has. But it seems like a good little gun.

I was in my lgs the other day and one of the owners was talking about the Charter Arms snubbies. He said that he likes them and is thinking about buying on for himself.
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Picked up an old Yugoslavian Tokarev M57. This uses the 7.62x25 cartridge.
Better pics when it gets here - maybe. I don't usually modify old firearms, but can't you just imagine this one, dehorned, parkerized dark gray, with OD green G10 grips and modern sights?
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Thanks Wade. I like it a lot so far.
Congrats also on that fine loom fixer.

TF, know nothing about Charter at all.

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Well did not plan on buying a gun today but we all know how that goes. Said "Used". Field stripped it right at the gun counter and have to say besides the factory test fire, highly doubt it has been fired at all. Absolutely no carbon or residue or wear found anywhere. I am pretty meticulous about gun cleaning know a new gun when I see one. Polished feed ramp also. Picked it up for half of retail. Smoking deal just couldn't pass up.

SIG SAUER 229 9MM. 15 + 1 with 2 magazines. SIG STL-900 Laser and 130 lumen tactical light. Hard holster that fits with STL-900 attached.

Holster and tac light also fit my SIG MK-25 9MM (P226).

Also picked up some Hornady Custom 147 grain 9MM, 200 rounds.
Never knew they made 147 grain 9MM HP ammo before. Reviews are mixed. My research showed some pretty impressive results in my opinion. Anyone used these before?

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I don't like geegaws like lights or lasers attached. But that are a HANDSOME pistol!
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Jerry that's a real nice looking Sig.
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Thanks Wade! She is a sweet functional looker.
Just Plain Dave wrote:I don't like geegaws like lights or lasers attached. But that are a HANDSOME pistol!
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Thanks Dave. I hear ya on the light and laser. I like to keep it simple also. However, it does serve a valid purpose like a holster for instance, in my opinion. Sometimes you need it sometimes you don't. Could have done without the laser but it is an integrated unit with the light.
At least once a week in the middle of the night, the dogs alert me. Nice not to have to aim or locate 2 separate things to deal with it when I head outside to see why the are barking. Additionally, if your eyeballs are in night vision mode, IE: been in darkness awhile and they have adjusted to that, being hit in the eyes with a 130 lumen light, solid or strobe, well enough said as most of us who had the pleasure of that know what I mean.

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