Howdy, I need to get some info on my bayonet (who made it, the gun it mounted on and what is it worth)? It is 21" long and has U S stamped by the mount and in mint condition. I don't think it has been used? Check out the pix.
Thx for all your help, H B
Civil War Bayonet
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zzyzzogeton
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Re: Civil War Bayonet
Maybe someone else can "eyeball" a generic picture on the 1800s spike bayonets, but most of us need more info than just pics.
From your statement I can't tell if you mean the OAL is 21" or just the blade is 21" (tip to neck) - there are some with 21" blades and others that have an OAL close to 21". And is the 21" exact or just a "close" measurement. Some bayos are 20.875", some 21", some 21.125", etc....
In order for me to have a chance at IDing it, at a minimum, I would need
- inside diameter of the ring
- length of barrel ring
- length of blade
- OAL length
- width of blade at the widest point
edit to add - After looking through my copy of Jantzen's, I was reminded of other features on socket bayos used to ID them.
also need
- OD of the socket
- neck length, i.e., the distance from the top of the blade to the bottom of the socket
From the pictures, it appears that the socket channel cuts through the rear of the socket butt in a straight line with the forward section of the channel. Is that correct or an illusion of the pic?
From your statement I can't tell if you mean the OAL is 21" or just the blade is 21" (tip to neck) - there are some with 21" blades and others that have an OAL close to 21". And is the 21" exact or just a "close" measurement. Some bayos are 20.875", some 21", some 21.125", etc....
In order for me to have a chance at IDing it, at a minimum, I would need
- inside diameter of the ring
- length of barrel ring
- length of blade
- OAL length
- width of blade at the widest point
edit to add - After looking through my copy of Jantzen's, I was reminded of other features on socket bayos used to ID them.
also need
- OD of the socket
- neck length, i.e., the distance from the top of the blade to the bottom of the socket
From the pictures, it appears that the socket channel cuts through the rear of the socket butt in a straight line with the forward section of the channel. Is that correct or an illusion of the pic?
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kenb
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Re: Civil War Bayonet
H B, at one time I had about 6 or 7 of those socket bayonets and I don't think any of them were the same size. I tried to find out their fitment and it was a bit difficult (and I didn't try really hard). I ended up selling them to a guy who liked them more than I did. As far a worth, I've seen them for $25 and I've seen them for $325 . Someone else here will probably be able to help you, or Google civil war edged weapons or bayonets and you will find some help. Good luck with your quest.
Ken
Ken
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Gunsil
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Re: Civil War Bayonet
Googling "civil war bayonets" won't be of much help if it turns out to be a later bayonet which is entirely possible. One needs to remember that the 1870s and even later trapdoor rifles used the same style of bayonet. Wayne's (Zzy) criteria must be met to ID the bayonet, there were so may made. The inside diameter of the socket will tell if it is a CW era or a later trapdoor bayonet, but then there were the Remington rolling blocks and other US long arms to consider.