Show Your Old Timer Variants

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

I thought we had a thread devoted to Old Timer variants; i.e. knives bearing the Old Timer name or tang stamp and another company name on the knife. But since I couldn’t find that topic, I decided to start a new one.

I know John Primble had 3 of the Old Timer stockman patterns that wore John Primble tang stamps.
Primble Old Timers a.jpg

I know Sears had a similar knife made by Schrade with the Old Crafty shield.
Old Crafty b.jpg
Sears also had a large number of Schrade Old Timer patterns made that looked like Old Timers but did not wear the Old Timer name.


I also have several examples of the True Value Hardware Master Mechanic MM Old Timers. I will have to find more pictures, but here are some of the MM89.
MM89.jpg
MM89 Schrade.jpg

Recently I found an Old Timer that was new to me, the TW Old Timer for Trust Worthy Hardware.
TW Old Timer Barlow b.jpg
TW Old Timer Barlow tang stamp.jpg
This is a Trust Worthy sign posted in another topic a few years ago.
Trust Worthy Hardware sign.jpg


I am sure there are other variants of Old Timer patterns that were made as SFOs for many other companies. I am especially interested if they have the Old Timer name on the shield or an OT tang stamp number or if they are an obvious copy of an Old Timer made by Schrade for another company.

Show ‘em if ya’ got ‘em! ::tu::
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

First off (1) Three Primbles 933,934 ,935
(2) Craftsman 9523
(3)Three MM 34, 8,89
(4) Imperial
(5)Robeson Shuredge
(6)Schrade 225H
(7)Schrade Ireland .This one I am not sure off at the time a person had 5 he was selling.

I also have a Schrade Walden NY USA 25OT blade in a 225 frame and handles.
Hope they are in the right order.
Grant
Attachments
P1030186.JPG
P1030187.JPG
P1030188.JPG
P1030190.JPG
P1030191.JPG
P1030192.JPG
P1030189.JPG
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
junebug
Posts: 5499
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:40 am

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by junebug »

HOW ABOUT THE "PRINCE ALBERT TOBACCO" & THE "CAMEL CIGARETTES" PROMO KNIVES..... 8)
ULSTER TANG STAMPS.....OLD TIMER SHIELDS
(NOT MY KNIVES/STUFF,BUT HAD THESE PIX SAVED FOR RESEARCH)
I DO HAVE A TIN.......BUT NO KNIVES ::facepalm:: :mrgreen:
Attachments
P1020761.JPG
P1020761.JPG (28.78 KiB) Viewed 6233 times
UlsterOldTimers2.jpg
Ulster Offer.jpg
Ulster Offer.jpg (32.56 KiB) Viewed 6233 times
Camel Knife Offer.jpg
Camel Knife Offer.jpg (32.19 KiB) Viewed 6233 times
PA Tins front.jpg
PA Tins front.jpg (46.88 KiB) Viewed 6233 times
"Because tellin' people , i like having a SPYDIEHOLE sounds sooo much better than a THUMBHOLE"
- Junebug 2016
User avatar
MrBlister
Posts: 3298
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:26 pm

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by MrBlister »

Here one they sold a few down at SEARS..
Prolly bout $2....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLO

HET
Attachments
IMG_0727.JPG
IMG_0733.JPG
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

Awesome knives guys, keep 'em coming. ::tu:: ::tu::

I had not seen the Old Timer made in Ireland and I am with you on that Grant; I have my doubts about it.
All the rest are pretty much above question in my mind.

Dave, I don't recall seeing the 2OT with the Craftsman shield.

Nice examples guys! ::tu::
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
thawk
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:47 am
Location: Southern Plains, Arkansas River Valley
Contact:

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by thawk »

44OT_pen_f.JPG
44OT pen knife
44oT_pen_b.JPG
back side
Hal
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

Here's a 12OT two blade
Attachments
P1020511.JPG
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

Wow Hal, I have never seen one of those!
They left out the sheepfoot, spey and Wharncliffe blades and substituted a pen blade!
Do you have any history to go with the knife?



Cool one-off Grant.
Looks like they used a 12OT blade when they assembled a 72OT.


Here is a 50OT with bone handles.
Ulster 50OT mark side.jpg
Ulster 50OT pile side.jpg
I just found another one, a shell handled Diamond Edge with an Ulster 58OT blade in it.
This is the only shell handled Old Timer I have seen.
Ulster 58OT Shell.jpg
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

Dale.The Ulster Old timer 500 is every hard to find.
The one I have has 5OT tang stamp.
Also I have a 296Y ( 96OT )
Attachments
P1010808.JPG
P1010811.JPG
P1020344.JPG
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

Here is another one .Its a Old Timer 970TY.That's what it was called when purchased .
Grant
Attachments
P1030200.JPG
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
User avatar
thawk
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:47 am
Location: Southern Plains, Arkansas River Valley
Contact:

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by thawk »

orvet wrote:Wow Hal, I have never seen one of those!
They left out the sheepfoot, spey and Wharncliffe blades and substituted a pen blade!
Do you have any history to go with the knife?
No history, but I do not think it was done at the factory, at least not as a released edition. The front of the frame has a 33OT cutout, like it should have the pen knife up on the same end as the clip.
44OT_Pen_bl.JPG
The mod was nicely executed, it's a single spring, with offset catch bits. I did not keep this one, kind of wish I would have. There was no blade rub, and good snap. Handy design.
44OT_pen_s.JPG
Hal
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

thawk wrote: The mod was nicely executed, it's a single spring, with offset catch bits. I did not keep this one, kind of wish I would have. There was no blade rub, and good snap. Handy design.
I agree 100%! Very handy design!
I am very fond of that blade combination in a single spring knife, (I guess that is a classic penknife design).
The only thing that would make it better to my taste is to make the master blade a Wharncliffe instead of a clip blade. ::ds::
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
thawk
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:47 am
Location: Southern Plains, Arkansas River Valley
Contact:

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by thawk »

MrBlister wrote:Here one they sold a few down at SEARS..
Prolly bout $2....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLO

HET
Those were $5 Mister McBlister!!! :mrgreen:
2otP.JPG
Hal
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

Trustworthy Hardware 36815 USA ( Ulster 58OT )
Attachments
P1030299.JPG
P1030295.JPG
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

Nice find Grant! ::tu::
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
Shearer
Posts: 2352
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Shearer »

Dale you have the10OT.Ihave the 58OT.
It makes you wonder if they did 114OT Utility or scout Knife

Grant
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
User avatar
orvet
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19901
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by orvet »

I have not seen a 114OT with the Trust Worthy tang stamp, but you can bet I am looking! :mrgreen:
Dale
AAPK Administrator

Please visit my AAPK store: www.allaboutpocketknives.com/orvet

Job 13:15

"Buy more ammo!" - Johnnie Fain
“Evil is Powerless If The Good are Unafraid.” – Ronald Reagan
User avatar
Meridian_Mike
Posts: 5041
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:36 pm
Location: Mississippi

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Meridian_Mike »

I found this Old Timer variant thread and thought I would push it to the top and show off my latest find....
Old Crafty 9547....
Old Crafty 9547_1.jpg
Match Strike pull and an unusual grind on the blade above the pull..... Interesting.

I also have an Old Crafty 95071 in my collection....
Old Crafty 95071.jpg
And an Old Crafty 9545....
Old Crafty 9545.jpg
Also... I have a couple of Master Mechanic Old Timers...
MM89 (with the upside down shield....LOL).....
MM89 Master Mechanic.JPG
And a Master Mechanic MM108.....
MM108 Master Mechanic.JPG
That is what I have for now.
Y'all got any others in your collection since 2014???

Mike
:D
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
User avatar
tongueriver
Posts: 7239
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:01 pm

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by tongueriver »

Here is a Primble 8OT in bone, presumably from the 1959-1961 time frame. If I can find it, it is available.
primble001.jpg
User avatar
Meridian_Mike
Posts: 5041
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:36 pm
Location: Mississippi

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Meridian_Mike »

I don't have any of the Belknaps yet. If you can lay hands on it, shoot me a PM.
Is that a double stamp on the blade?
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
black mamba
Posts: 181
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:09 pm

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by black mamba »

Schrade built in the late 1970s, basically a black sawcut Delrin 8OT . . . very nice!
P-FblackBisonOpen.jpg
User avatar
Meridian_Mike
Posts: 5041
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:36 pm
Location: Mississippi

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Meridian_Mike »

black mamba wrote:Schrade built in the late 1970s, basically a black sawcut Delrin 8OT . . . very nice!
Sho 'nuff is a nice one!
Thanks for showing!

::tu::
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
User avatar
Doc B
Posts: 3700
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:57 pm
Location: San Antonio

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Doc B »

Seem to accumulate them...and have gotten all of these in multiple knife purchases...
All are Scrade USA made. The top 3 are 108 OT stockman knives. The bottom right 2 blade is a 104OT and the bottom left is a single blade 18OT...it has a liner lock. Maybe the smallest liner lock knife I have.
OT.jpg
linerlock.jpg
Heretical Refurb / Mods of cheap old folders, since late 2018
User avatar
jxr1197
Posts: 999
Joined: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:47 am

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by jxr1197 »

Neat old thread. Here's an early 58OT in genuine (sparkly plastic) meerschaum. It's the first one I've seen with the pattern on the reverse and milled liners.
mark.jpg
mark2.jpg
liners.jpg
- Jason
User avatar
Meridian_Mike
Posts: 5041
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:36 pm
Location: Mississippi

Re: Show Your Old Timer Variants

Post by Meridian_Mike »

Very cool knife! Meerschaum... really? Now that is very nice!
I LOVE the backbone!

I managed to secure a Primble over the weekend. I won this one on an ebay auction.
It's a Primble 935. it's not in the best shape but the blades are full. I get my happiness from knives by cleaning them up so I will get my happys from this one!
Primble 935_1.jpg
Primble 935_2.jpg
Mike
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
Post Reply

Return to “Schrade Legacy Forum”