What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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peanut740 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 12:31 am Schrade Cut Co."Forest Champion"Real hard to find in this shape.
That's a real eye catcher peanut740! ::tu:: I think Schrade produced some of the nicest handles out there! Just beautiful! ::tu:: :D

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Here is a 3 1/8" steel handle, 2 spring Schrade-Walden knife with an unusual secondary. It is a 2 inch ruler, both sides are marked down to 16ths on an inch, and there is a tab at the end that would help in taking a measurement. (hook tab over end of board and the 'zero' lines up to end of board).
What is the reason for 2 springs when it would work fine with a single spring like pen knives do ?
It has a sturdy well made feel to it, as do top of the line hand tools. It is a little different from 'regular' Schrade knives.
I think this is intended for a specific situation rather than just to measure whatever you want to.
Have you seen this pattern before ? Do you know if there is an intended use ?
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kootenay joe wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 6:59 pm Here is a 3 1/8" steel handle, 2 spring Schrade-Walden knife with an unusual secondary. It is a 2 inch ruler, both sides are marked down to 16ths on an inch, and there is a tab at the end that would help in taking a measurement. (hook tab over end of board and the 'zero' lines up to end of board).
What is the reason for 2 springs when it would work fine with a single spring like pen knives do ?
It has a sturdy well made feel to it, as do top of the line hand tools. It is a little different from 'regular' Schrade knives.
I think this is intended for a specific situation rather than just to measure whatever you want to.
Have you seen this pattern before ? Do you know if there is an intended use ?
kj
Can't tell you what it was intended for but it is an interesting knife kj. ::tu:: :D
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Very cool Roland. ::tu::
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Thanks fellers.
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Great knives all. Here are a few
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James, i have never seen a Schrade-Walden trapper with a saw blade secondary. Have you been able to find it in a catalog ? Great knife !
Stockman has a unique punch blade, not like typesetter punches i have seen although this is likely what it is ? What does etch say ?
And is the trapper-jack a 293 pattern or 294 ?
I would be thrilled to find any one of these, so, all 3 = WOW ! ::woot::
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KJ, that is actually a fish scaler not a saw blade. This is the only one I’ve seen without the fish shield. I got it from Art Green. Art acquired many knives from the schrade auction. We discussed this possibly being a factory sample but not sure. The typesetter says R.Hoe Co. Inc. they made typewriters and I’ve seen others with this etch. The knife is unused but has the moisture blemish on it. The trapper is a sweetheart. Don’t get much nicer in my opinion. Not sure the pattern. Have to look. Thanks for the nice comments.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 12:01 am Great knives all. Here are a few
With or without the fish shield, that is the finest 292 I have ever seen - wow!
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Thanks Jason.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 12:59 am KJ, that is actually a fish scaler not a saw blade. This is the only one I’ve seen without the fish shield. I got it from Art Green. Art acquired many knives from the schrade auction. We discussed this possibly being a factory sample but not sure. The typesetter says R.Hoe Co. Inc. they made typewriters and I’ve seen others with this etch. The knife is unused but has the moisture blemish on it. The trapper is a sweetheart. Don’t get much nicer in my opinion. Not sure the pattern. Have to look. Thanks for the nice comments.
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In the picture it looks like 2 rows of saw teeth just like a 97OT and the teeth seem pointy whereas they are rounded on a fish scaler.
Maybe the back row of teeth is the shadow ?
I asked because i do not know of a S-W with a saw blade and this does look more saw than scaler even though there is a hook remover at the tip.
Are you certain it is not a saw blade with a hook remover ? It would be a more useful blade than the usual rather useless fish scaler blade.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 12:01 am Great knives all. Here are a fewDF783B0A-C694-4DC4-8C9E-7979B11A969C.jpeg91F63595-8EBA-406B-9880-D989459C5FDF.jpegFAC5969A-0058-4691-81CE-1F9DE2078734.jpeg
Three beautiful Schrades Jay! Especially that last one. :shock: Great looking handles & shield! ::tu:: Also a nice profile on that main blade!!! ::nod:: Very nice! :D
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Thanks Tom!
KJ, your right it does look more like a saw blade but why would they put a hook remover on a saw blade??
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Stunning knives Jay! You're bringing out the big guns lately! ::tu::

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JAMESC41001 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 pm Thanks Tom!
KJ, your right it does look more like a saw blade but why would they put a hook remover on a saw blade??
I like a saw blade and often find it useful. The saw blade on the 97OT is one of the best 'cutters' of any of the saw blades on other brands. Putting a hook remover on the end makes it even more useful and the notch at the tip can be used to open the blade. I see it as a great blade design.
But is this the only one ? And how did this come to be ? Schrade factory or 'after market' ?
I would like to hear Eric's thoughts on this blade and knife. And, where can I get one ! ::woot::
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It might be presumptious of me to even talk about it as I "wasn't there," and haven't even handled that knife with the sawblade. I think that the frame and covers are older than the blades. I think that the covers show some use and I think someone, maybe even on orders from the company, created this knife as experimental or prototype. That clip blade shows late Schrade Walden grinds; it just doesn't look the same as the ones earlier with the rat-tail bolsters. My vote goes to a put-together, but probably legitimately so. I bet they might even have used a fish knife blank blade and then cut the sawteeth into it. Just my opinions and sometimes they are WAY off.
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kootenay joe wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:38 pmBut is this the only one ?
Roland if you google for images of the Schrade Walden 292 you'll see that they all had the same sawtooth style blade with hook remover. What makes this 292 stand out is that it's the only one I have seen without a cap lifter at the base of the scaler. That plus the not a fish shield makes me think sample room - especially with that earlier style rat tail bolster.

Regarding the knife you posted with the ruler. You asked about it's intended purpose, noting that the tab placed over the end of a board would zero it. I can't think of any other purpose for that and Schrade called the pattern a Lumber Rule so I'd say you're thought was correct.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I can’t say one way or the other on this one. I purchased it because it is unique and because of who I was getting it from. Knowing Art and his history with rare schrades and collections he has been involved with I believe it more then likely is an early example of the pattern. My opinion is it is a proto/sample. At least that is what I tell myself.
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kootenay joe wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 6:59 pm ...there is a tab at the end that would help in taking a measurement. (hook tab over end of board and the 'zero' lines up to end of board)...

...Have you seen this pattern before ? Do you know if there is an intended use ?
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jxr1197 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 4:32 pm Regarding the knife you posted with the ruler. You asked about it's intended purpose, noting that the tab placed over the end of a board would zero it. I can't think of any other purpose for that and Schrade called the pattern a Lumber Rule so I'd say you're thought was correct.
"Lumber Rule" for sure. kj, that's just how you use it. Here's the listing from 1926 catalog for the S7309GSIL Cut Co version.
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Well, live & learn ! I am surprised to see that these sharp pointy teeth are indeed intended for scaling fish. I have a few old Imperial Fish knives and the scaler blade on these has blunt rounded 'teeth' and i had assumed this was standard for this function.
And, there is my Lumbar Rule knife ! Yahoo :) It is now on it's way to Ohio.
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I found this mixed in with the $5 junk knives at the flea market. It's in good shape but it looks like someone went and put the wrong blade in there. Maybe I'll be able to find a clip for it.
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jxr1197 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 pm I found this mixed in with the $5 junk knives at the flea market. It's in good shape but it looks like someone went and put the wrong blade in there. Maybe I'll be able to find a clip for it.
Nice score. You didn't land a super rare 3OT did you? Is the main blade a sheepfoot with proper Schrade Walden stamps?

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jxr1197 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 pm I found this mixed in with the $5 junk knives at the flea market. It's in good shape but it looks like someone went and put the wrong blade in there. Maybe I'll be able to find a clip for it.
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Bladecollector is right...If that knife has a sheepsfoot blade with the proper tang stamp, then what you have is a Schrade Walden 3 OT. These are very rare as there were only 13 made and besides the Schrade Collection 3 OT that I have, I have only seen a picture of 1 other one that was a rusted-out mess.

In any event, 2 OT or 3 OT you got yourself one heck of a nice knife there, especially considering it was in a $5 box...LOL

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bladecollectorr wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:31 pm Nice score. You didn't land a super rare 3OT did you? Is the main blade a sheepfoot with proper Schrade Walden stamps?
edge213 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:50 pm Nice pickup!
Chase wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:06 pm Bladecollector is right...If that knife has a sheepsfoot blade with the proper tang stamp, then what you have is a Schrade Walden 3 OT. These are very rare as there were only 13 made and besides the Schrade Collection 3 OT that I have, I have only seen a picture of 1 other one that was a rusted-out mess.

In any event, 2 OT or 3 OT you got yourself one heck of a nice knife there, especially considering it was in a $5 box...LOL

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Thanks guys - I'm just yanking yalls chain here. :D The knife was a rescue. When I found it the blades were down to nubs. I've rescued a few like this but this time decided to have a little fun with it because I've always wanted a 3OT and what are the chances of ever finding one? Kaleb made these blades for me with nothing to guide him except a pic of a 3OT I sent him. He knocked it out of the park, as usual.

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