New Queen City knife..

[Stanwade]

Is Frost making Queen knives now? Looks just like a Rough Ryder canoe to me.. country of manufacturer is not listed on eBay.... just curious..there are several other patterns with Queen City stamped on them that look just like rough ryders also

[Stanwade]

Here's a few more...

[Stanwade]

I remember reading about this trapper being done by the fellow who was supposed to restart Queen manufacturing in Ohio..it is USA made.. got bad reviews somewhere I read earlier this year..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Queen-City-Tra ... %3A2334524

[kennedy knives]

I believe the guy from Ohio sold the Queen rights to Smokey Mt & Blue Ridge and they are the one's that are having them made in China . He still has Schatt & Morgan from what I've heard .

[Stanwade]

What a shame...Queen cutlery stamps on Chinese made junk....

[Doc B]

Pretty much Rough Riders, with a different stamp.

[cody6268]

I am not impressed at all. I actually like the red bone Trapper, but Bear quality is so hit and miss. I have some from the late 1990s (Bear Jaws tools, mostly) to present, and many have issues.


Something tells me, especially in that it is SMKW that owns the Queen trademarks, the whole "production to restart in Ohio" never came to be.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Schatt & Morgan is owned by Gilbert & Debbie Cooper. DFC filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy (liquidation).


Word Mark SCHATT & MORGAN
Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: Cutlery; hunting knives; pocket knives; tactical knives; military knives; sharpening stones. FIRST USE: 18970000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 18970000
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85974607
Filing Date July 1, 2013
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition December 10, 2013
Registration Number 4487860
Registration Date February 25, 2014
Owner (REGISTRANT) Daniels Family Cutlery Corporation DBA Queen Cutlery Company CORPORATION PENNSYLVANIA 507 Chestnut Street Titusville PENNSYLVANIA 16354
(LAST LISTED OWNER) COOPER, GILBERT INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 10416 FRANCIS ROAD WINCHESTER OHIO 45697

(LAST LISTED OWNER) COOPER, DEBBIE INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 10416 FRANCIS ROAD WINCHESTER OHIO 45697

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record Bradford C. Craig
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

The info on the trademark "Queen City" is a bit weird. There is this one, that shows it is owned by Gilbert Cooper:

Word Mark QUEEN CITY
Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: Cutlery; hunting knives; pocket knives; tactical knives; military knives; sharpening stones. FIRST USE: 19220000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19220000
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85974614
Filing Date July 1, 2013
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition April 8, 2014
Registration Number 4554707
Registration Date June 24, 2014
Owner (REGISTRANT) Daniels Family Cutlery Corporation DBA Queen Cutlery Company CORPORATION PENNSYLVANIA 507 Chestnut Street Titusville PENNSYLVANIA 16354
(LAST LISTED OWNER) COOPER, GILBERT INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 10416 FRANCIS ROAD WINCHESTER OHIO 45697

(LAST LISTED OWNER) COOPER, DEBBIE INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 10416 FRANCIS ROAD WINCHESTER OHIO 45697

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record Susan B. Flohr
Prior Registrations 0064701;1822386
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

And then there is this one that says it is owned by SMKW. I think what this is telling us is that SMKW applied to take ownership on 4/6/2020. That would explain the "(APPLICANT)" shown below. There isn't two records like this for the S&M trademark.

Word Mark QUEEN CITY
Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: cutlery; hunting knives; pocket knives; collectors' knives; folding knives; boot knives; tactical knives; military knives; steak knife sets; fillet knives; machetes; military combat and survival knives; military bayonets and scabbards; sharpening stones; whetstones; carrying cases specially adapted for holding knives; knife rolls; knife bags; knife packs; knife sheaths; knife sleeves
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 88860759
Filing Date April 6, 2020
Current Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Smoky Mountain Knife Works, Inc. CORPORATION TENNESSEE 2320 Winfield Dunn Parkway Sevierville TENNESSEE 37876
Attorney of Record Susan B. Flohr
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

[carrmillus]

What a shame...Queen cutlery stamps on Chinese made junk....

......more chineez crap!!!!............ .......................

[67cuda]

A far cry from real Queen Steel huh, lol ? Here’s a 1958-1960 model.

[Eye Brand Man]

Wow! sure did not take long for a historic American cutlery's name to be slapped on china junk. So sad when you really think about it The sad part is people will actually buy them

[Beavertail]

It won't be long until the Chinese Shatt and Morgan knives will be made.

[Stanwade]

It won't be long until the Chinese Shatt and Morgan knives will be made.

[Louisville.Boy1947]

According to SMKW website they list 7 Queen City products. Six are listed as 'made in China'. The remaining knife, listed as a Red Smooth Bone trapper is listed as 'made in the USA'. Earlier this year on one of the "Guys Talk Knives" YouTube videos there was a discussion that they (SMKW) had acquired rights to the name/trade mark and they had to scramble to have some of their products made with this tang stamp to keep from losing the trade mark. I believe the first knife was made in the USA and was listed as a mini trapper in black composite (now listed as out of stock). Hopefully SMKW will have more of this product (Queen City) made in the USA. This is not to be meant to be a knock on their China made product, I just would like to see more of everything made here in the U.S.