Is this Eye Brad a counterfeit?

[TPK]

Hello friends,

Found a pretty good looking eye brad knife that is up for auction over here but I'm not sure if it's ok or a counterfeit knife. It has to do with the nail nicks. 3 of one kind, 1 of another kind. That's what caught my eye. Thought I'd post it and ask for your thoughts before I decide if I want to bid on it. It does have nice looking scales and might still be a good EDC.

For comparison, I found another one "just like it".

I'll post the pictures of the knife in question along with this first post.

Then I'll post the pictures of the knife thats "just like it" for comparison in the second post.


If anyone has any ideas for why the knife in question looks ok or why it looks not ok, feel free to share.
Could it be a knife that was rebuilt or repaired? Could it be a factory misstake? Could there be any other explanation I'm not thinking of? Or is it just plain a counterfeit?

So here goes, here is the knife in question. :

[TPK]

So, & here is the second knife that is "just like it" for comparison.

Note: this one cost €59.99.

The knife above in the first post is at €2.50 + €7.50 shipping or something like that & the auction ends on Sunday.

[Ripster]

So, & here is the second knife that is "just like it" for comparison.

Note: this one cost €59.99.

The knife above in the first post is at €2.50 + €7.50 shipping or something like that & the auction ends on Sunday.

Hey there My friend, nice looking knives. They sure look close ,the etch looks nice on the one. Any pics of blades open on the second one? For the price would keep an eye on the auction. Good luck, you will make the right decision,right Take care, have fun ,stay safe.

[TPK]

So, & here is the second knife that is "just like it" for comparison.

Note: this one cost €59.99.

The knife above in the first post is at €2.50 + €7.50 shipping or something like that & the auction ends on Sunday.

Hey there My friend, nice looking knives. They sure look close ,the etch looks nice on the one. Any pics of blades open on the second one? For the price would keep an eye on the auction. Good luck, you will make the right decision,right Take care, have fun ,stay safe.

Hi Buddy!

Nope. Just have these pictures.

I am having a fun day today. Wanna see? viewtopic.php?f=21&t=68671

Hope your enjoying your day today also my friend!

Take Care & Stay Safe,
Tom

[Mumbleypeg]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen a counterfeit Eye Brand, especially a newer production one. Why would anyone bother? They’re nice knives, but I doubt there’s enough money in counterfeiting one.

Ken

[TPK]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen a counterfeit Eye Brand, especially a newer production one. Why would anyone bother? They’re nice knives, but I doubt there’s enough money in counterfeiting one.

Ken

I don't know Ken. Just see no reason for different types of nail nicks. Or have you seen that before?

[Mumbleypeg]

No but there’s a lot I haven’t seen. I still have to ask, why would anyone bother? Not sure who makes Eye Brand nowadays (probably Olbertz?), but they’re German, made in Solingen, so if you can determine who it is maybe you can contact them, or get access to a catalog.

Ken

[TPK]

No but there’s a lot I haven’t seen. I still have to ask, why would anyone bother? Not sure who makes Eye Brand nowadays (probably Olbertz?), but they’re German, made in Solingen, so if you can determine who it is maybe you can contact them, or get access to a catalog.

Ken

Why would anyone bother to couterfeit any knife worth less than $200 or $300 is beyond me but it does happen. If it happens with other brands, why not this one?

Good idea with the catalog but it won't be of any help before tomarrow.

Have a good one my friend & thanks for your time.

Tom

[Mumbleypeg]

Here ya go https://www.pocketknives.de/

Ken

[WillyCamaro]

Tom my friend, those are two good lookin' German Eyes.
I wouldn't have any issue owning either of em', probably different years of manufacture. Tang stamps will tell the complete story, I'll blow up the pics, and give you my definite opinion (like that even matters ).

[btrwtr]

I am not very well advised with newer knives and the match striker pull on a Eye Brand congress is a new one on me. The second posted knife blade etch (wood grain background) is the old etch on a newer knife so if that's what they are doing now I can't say that I like it. Is the same etch on the matchstriker OP knife?

I've never been a fan of using old stamps or etches for that matter on newer production knives. I think it just adds to the confusion for many trying to figure out if it is an old or a new knife.

[TPK]

Tom my friend, those are two good lookin' German Eyes.
I wouldn't have any issue owning either of em', probably different years of manufacture. Tang stamps will tell the complete story, I'll blow up the pics, and give you my definite opinion (like that even matters ).

Great! Of course it matters! Thanks Buddy!

[TPK]

I am not very well advised with newer knives and the match striker pull on a Eye Brand congress is a new one on me. The second posted knife blade etch (wood grain background) is the old etch on a newer knife so if that's what they are doing now I can't say that I like it. Is the same etch on the matchstriker OP knife?

I've never been a fan of using old stamps or etches for that matter on newer production knives. I think it just adds to the confusion for many trying to figure out if it is an old or a new knife.

What confusses me is the fact that on the knife in question, it has two sorts of nail nicks on the same knife.
This picture shows a "normal" nail nick on the main blade while the secondary has the "match strike" typ nail nick, as does the other two secondary blades.

I looked around on the Web site Ken posted a link of and they did make knives with both types of nail nicks but I have never seen any knives with two sorts of nail nicks on the same knife. The Web site Ken posted has not been updated for many years but it said that their knives were hand made in small runs or batches of about 60 knives. Maybe it was an end of the run knife and they were missing a main blade so somebody just improvised. Who knows? Ken is probably right. Why would anyone bother to couterfeit a knife like this? Don't make much sense. Somebody improvising to get the knife finished could make sense.

Anyways, everyone says it looks good, I think it looks good, so I'll see, if I can get it for a fair price, (1/2 price) then I'll either have a good looking fake or quirky individual. And if I don't get it for 1/2 price, I'll just let it go. Got my eyes on a couple of other Sweethearts as well. We will know this evening.

[WillyCamaro]

I think you and Ken have gotten to the bottom of this mystery, definitely end-run/factory second.
Never heard of a counterfit EYB, so that should put your worries to rest Tom.
Because of it's quirks, I would value it 10%-15% above the regular congress of that era. Normally they run for $90-$100, so if you can snag it at $60, would be a great deal. Good luck!

[TPK]

I think you and Ken have gotten to the bottom of this mystery, definitely end-run/factory second.
Never heard of a counterfit EYB, so that should put your worries to rest Tom.
Because of it's quirks, I would value it 10%-15% above the regular congress of that era. Normally they run for $90-$100, so if you can snag it at $60, would be a great deal. Good luck!

I had it and got overbid in the last seconds of the auction. That's usually my hat trick.

Thanks anyways for all the Input friends! I appreciate it!

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