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OK,

Now, we have preached reading the knife over and over. Here is a simple one to review. Just a tip, "reading a knife has very little to do with the written material on a knife(the stamp)"

Look at this ebay sale and tell me what's wrong with the discription. Acutually there are several faults but one should be obvious to a person who has truly read this knife.

"you can't see the forest due to the trees"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Brown-Broth ... dZViewItem
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I know nothing about Brown Bros but that sure looks like a German-made knife from the first few decades of the 1900s to me. :) s-k
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SK,

come on down, you are the grand prize winner, Now I just have to find a grand prize. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: You are absolutely right in your determination. There are other faults with this add, but until someone reads my book and understands it, few would know. But you cuaght the obvious. congrats on reading the knife. Hope others learn from this little test.

Many may think that becuase it isn't stamped GERMANY that it was made here in the USA! WRONG!!! that stamp (if on a knife) dates it for you, but doesn't tell you anything if it isn't there.

Nice job, I knew you would come through, how about you others, did you realize this when you READ this knife ::ds::

I hope so.

I particularly liked your comment about knowing nothing about Brown Bros. You should be pleased that you didn't make a decsion based on the stamp, but rather you did it on the knife itself. That's what I have been preaching all along. READ the knife, then the stamp, never in reverse.
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Hey PA you have my address so know where to send the grand prize :lol: Thanks for teaching us these lessons. :) s-k
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you are writing the book and i can't wait for all these answers. did brown bros have german and u.s. made knives? were german cutlers working at the knife factory. what influence would they have on these early knives? is this a counterfeit knife?
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Very nice Lesson PA...Much appreciated...SK you are the man.. ::tu::
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jonet143 wrote:you are writing the book and i can't wait for all these answers. did brown bros have german and u.s. made knives? were german cutlers working at the knife factory. what influence would they have on these early knives? is this a counterfeit knife?
Brown's had many knives made in Germany, possible more than were made in Tidioute, but ??? no one knows for sure. IF you look at what is out in the market though, most are german. There were both German and English workers at the factory. I have specific names listed in the book and it tells this. With many companies in New England closing at this time in history, many came to Little Valley to work. The first Tidioute Cutlery was started with materials brought in by five German and English cutlers. Later on in 1902, Union Razor, convinced many to work for them too, some were children of cutlers that worked in LV also. Interesting stuff, at least to me.

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thanks dave, please put me on the list for a signed copy of your book!
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where do i get this book yall are talking about?
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PA Knives wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:57 pm SK,

come on down, you are the grand prize winner, Now I just have to find a grand prize. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: You are absolutely right in your determination. There are other faults with this add, but until someone reads my book and understands it, few would know. But you cuaght the obvious. congrats on reading the knife. Hope others learn from this little test.

Many may think that becuase it isn't stamped GERMANY that it was made here in the USA! WRONG!!! that stamp (if on a knife) dates it for you, but doesn't tell you anything if it isn't there.

Nice job, I knew you would come through, how about you others, did you realize this when you READ this knife ::ds::

I hope so.

I particularly liked your comment about knowing nothing about Brown Bros. You should be pleased that you didn't make a decsion based on the stamp, but rather you did it on the knife itself. That's what I have been preaching all along. READ the knife, then the stamp, never in reverse.
Hello! Where I'll could buy your book. Thank you.
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I believe AMAZON sells it now

Enjoy

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