Outdoorsman Thread

[Quick Steel]

The black ones have the reputation of being much more aggressive than the turkey vultures, attacking new borns and other small animals.

[jmh58]

Cool shots, John.

That Indian Rock picture reminds me- some place between Cumberland and Bedford, PA is Indian Will's gravesite. Will's Creek that runs through Cumberland and meets the Potomac there is named after him. If you ever come across any information about Indian Will while hiking, let me know.

Thank You John.. Will do..
John

[jmh58]

I’m trying to figure out why water appears to fall in other than a straight line in those last few photos.

Small feeder stream done a hill side.. Rocks, roots, fallen tree limbs and stuff.. Not sure what you are asking??
John

[1967redrider]

I’m trying to figure out why water appears to fall in other than a straight line in those last few photos.

Small feeder stream done a hill side.. Rocks, roots, fallen tree limbs and stuff.. Not sure what you are asking??
John

I think it's the icicles.

[treefarmer]

You were holding to the high ground today. Am I correct that the vultures were Black, not Turkey?

Who owns that somewhat French chateau looking residence?

I guess you can say that.
We know them as turkey vultures. The pic makes them look black.
I have no idea. Wish we did.
John

Just happen to have some fresh (current) pictures of both black vultures and Turkey Buzzards picking some deer bones. Click on the pics and they should expand:

The Turkey Buzzards have the red heads.

Appears all of these are Turkey Buzzards.

An integrated group.
Notice the Ladino Clover is starting to bloom.

Treefarmer

[jmh58]

OK.. So the Turkey Vultures got a red head and the Black Vultures got a yellow beak??
Man.. I have been wrong all my life..
Lesson learned..
John

[Quick Steel]

Interesting shots Phil.

[jerryd6818]

Found an image online of a Turkey Buzzard & a Black Buzzard, side by side. (image will expand)

[jmh58]

You were holding to the high ground today. Am I correct that the vultures were Black, not Turkey?

Garry.. Thank You.. And yes you were correct and I learned something new..
John

[RobesonsRme.com]

The rivulets of water trickling in these two photos are not falling in a straight vertical line.

Sorry about the orientation.

[treefarmer]

The black ones have the reputation of being much more aggressive than the turkey vultures, attacking new borns and other small animals.

Before we moved to the Panhandle, we were associated with a lot of old-time cattle people in central Florida. Buzzards were not appreciated by many of those folks. Buzzards would attack newborn calves and if momma was having a bit of trouble, the buzzards would start on her, pecking out the eyes first. Not a pretty sight and not a very nice bird. For years there was a game rule on the books about shooting at large soaring birds. I suppose it protected eagles and hawks too but buzzards had a bad reputation. Buzzards usually roosted in a swamp or on the high line towers that went through Miss Joy's family ranch. One of the cowmen that leased the grazing rights on their property carried an old 22 Hornet of some description and a buzzard on the ground or roosting, even resting in a tree, was fair game to him, even in front of the Game Warden. They knew how destructive they were.
Now before someone says,"They should have been watching their cows more closely!" This was the old Florida woods cattle, they only saw a man on a horse about 2 times a year. The cows were gathered for marking and branding and then when it was time to wean the calves. Those type cows were running wild on thousands of acres of natural growth woods, they were tough and mean, but no match for a buzzard when they were in a bind giving birth. The buzzard attacks were not an everyday thing but were common enough to be on lots of old timer's hit list.
Granted buzzards do a great job cleaning up the right of ways where road kills are a continuing occurrence but there is a dark side to them, also.
Treefarmer

[Quick Steel]

True story. To enter Ft. Polk for basic training we switched from our comfortable Illinois Central coach to a rickety narrow gauge railroad taking us thru the swamp to the base. I looked out the window and at eye level, its slowly flapping wing tips just a very few inches from the window pane, was a Turkey Vulture (my first) looking at me directly eye to eye. I couldn't help but feel a sense of foreboding.

[Actually, while challenging, I've always considered basic training a good experience.]

[RobesonsRme.com]

There is a slue off Lewis Smith Lake, the second cleanest lake in The United States, called Dismal Creek.

At its wide parts, close to the main lake body, are large beautiful homes, but it meanders through the Alabama countryside and gets more and more narrow, as creeks do and just before it becomes unnavigable, there is an area that has been burned. The trees are charred sticks and the ground is bare and there is always a flock of vultures there, some in the trees and some on the ground and they just look at you until you’re so creeped out you turn the boat around and leave.

[jmh58]

Some pics from yesterday’s “Woods Wander”.

[jmh58]

[garddogg56]

Nothing like a warmer than normal Sunday on a river where industry use to thrive fly fishing

[TripleF]

Love those photos folks!!

Processing some fatwood yesterday! And came across this hog skull again (decided to take a couple shots with it).

[TripleF]

These 2 have been on a mission every week since mid January. They love being outdoors!!
They learned how to use a Bic lighter yesterday!!

[jerryd6818]

Had to step back a pace or two on that one. I didn't know there was a learning curve on the operation of a Bic lighter (said the former smoker of 33 years). Funny how there are some things you just take for granted.

[Colonel26]

The black ones have the reputation of being much more aggressive than the turkey vultures, attacking new borns and other small animals.

Before we moved to the Panhandle, we were associated with a lot of old-time cattle people in central Florida. Buzzards were not appreciated by many of those folks. Buzzards would attack newborn calves and if momma was having a bit of trouble, the buzzards would start on her, pecking out the eyes first. Not a pretty sight and not a very nice bird. For years there was a game rule on the books about shooting at large soaring birds. I suppose it protected eagles and hawks too but buzzards had a bad reputation. Buzzards usually roosted in a swamp or on the high line towers that went through Miss Joy's family ranch. One of the cowmen that leased the grazing rights on their property carried an old 22 Hornet of some description and a buzzard on the ground or roosting, even resting in a tree, was fair game to him, even in front of the Game Warden. They knew how destructive they were.
Now before someone says,"They should have been watching their cows more closely!" This was the old Florida woods cattle, they only saw a man on a horse about 2 times a year. The cows were gathered for marking and branding and then when it was time to wean the calves. Those type cows were running wild on thousands of acres of natural growth woods, they were tough and mean, but no match for a buzzard when they were in a bind giving birth. The buzzard attacks were not an everyday thing but were common enough to be on lots of old timer's hit list.
Granted buzzards do a great job cleaning up the right of ways where road kills are a continuing occurrence but there is a dark side to them, also.
Treefarmer

We never saw black buzzards around here until just a few years ago. We never really had a problem with the old red headed Turkey buzzards attacking cattle. But the black ones who’ve moved in are vicious. Even the game wardens will tell you, “they can’t hurt your cows if they’re dead….” So here there’s a standing kill order on the black ones.

I sure would have liked to see the old 22 Hornet that Florida cowboy carried.

[1967redrider]

Very cool, Scott.


Chilly day out on the farm. Remnants of yesterday's flop of a snow storm, barnyard and looking West and North towards town. Started out around 20° but it's warming now and the skiff is melting.

[Quick Steel]

Thanks for those interesting photos redrider. I do think, rather speculatively, that those of us living in rural surroundings are fortunate given the times we live in. (Do you raise crops or animals?)

[treefarmer]

I sure would have liked to see the old 22 Hornet that Florida cowboy carried.
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Bro. Wade, if I had to guess, I would say the rifle probably was a single shot Savage 219, break-open. I do remember there was no scope, just iron sights.
Wonder what happened to that old rifle?
Treefarmer

[1967redrider]

Thanks for those interesting photos redrider. I do think, rather speculatively, that those of us living in rural surroundings are fortunate given the times we live in. (Do you raise crops or animals?)

Most definitely, QS . We do about an acre sized garden, about 40 head of beef cattle, dozen and a half egg layers and my brother just ordered 50 roaster chicken peeps. Every day tasks but it's nice knowing how your food was raised. You can see some cows in the top picture, top left.

[doglegg]

Lovely place redrider. Lots of work but lovely.