Oh where to begin

[HCain]

When my Dad passed I inherited his knife collection. He was a big time collector, of lots of stuff. His bullet knife collection I can pretty much determine value on because they are out there being sold, however he did have some of what I think are real vintage knives. They just feel different not only look different. He had several very, very nice Winchester knives and a Bullet knife that has me thinking it's real. SO......... if you guys could take a minute I'm going to post a few pics of this one bullet knife for your opinions. It's a R4466 made between 1933-1935. Called a Baby Muskrat. Don't think me to be showboating with this wealth of knowledge. Is this the real deal and can you help with a value.

Thanks,
H

[stockman]

H IMO Not old vintage

[HCain]

Well that's a start anyway. It just dosen't look anything like the repos so I didn't know for sure

[robinetn]

This pattern should have stag handles . This one has jigged bone handles , but not the type of jigging used by Remington during this era . I have a counterfeit Winchester toothpick with the exact jigged bone that is on your knife . I am far from being an expert on Remingtons but I am sure that one will soon give you more helpful info on this knife .

P.S. In the meanwhile open both blades fully and see if they are parallel and check to see if the thickness of the blades is exactly as thick as the backsprings .

Bob R. (RIDGEWOOD CUTLERY)

[HCain]

Thank you

[HCain]

Well ya know, in doing what you suggested and comparing this knife to my other bullets, the repros, there does seem to be some difference.

I take it I'm looking for signs of grinding the blade down for fresh markings ?

Looks like I might indeed have a forgery here. That is just something that had never dawned on me before. I suppse it's like my Well's Fargo belt buckle with Tiffany New York on the back .

Well at least all my reproductions are in their boxes. Oh heck, they didn't forge boxes too did they?

[remington collector]

Hello HCain, I see that you made it. When we first e-mailed I was afraid that your R 4466 would not be authentic. Now that I see the pictures I'm sure its not. The other posters have guided you correctly. You have a counterfeit knife there, I see them pass thru ebay from time to time, as far as collector value that would be nil, it might be worth a few dollars for a tackle box knife. Thanks for sharing, sorry its not the real deal.

[Miller Bro's]

The jigging pattern looks like the stuff coming out of China

The pattern numbers stamped on the tang are too large, the bolsters are stamped with that groove, not cut like the originals.

I agree with RC little to no value as a collectable knife

[HCain]

Thanks guys.

My Dad was a great man. He knew more than me, more than you, more than the next fellow. Like they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. It looks like somewhere along the way he got took. But ya know what, I'm just gonna keep it to myself, let's not tell him OK.

Horatio