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the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:32 am
by junebug
HEY GUYS....SEARCHED AND SEARCHED ...AND NOTHIN'!
SO HERE IT GOES......................
I REALLY LIKE THIS PATTERN 8)
LETS SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE,AND ADD SOME PICS FOR KNIFE LORE RESEARCH!!! ::tu::

THIS THREAD, LETS STICK TO THE "S" CURVED,SAME WIDTH ENTIRE LENGTH OF FRAME
"SERPENTINE JACK" PATTERN


NO-- SWELL END,PEANUT,TAPERING ON ONE END,ECT-PLEASE



FEW PICS TO GET THANG A FLOWIN'............. ::super_happy::
I WILL TRY TO ADD BLADE PIX LATER,AND ADD CLOSED LENGTH OF EACH ::tu::

anybody know when this pattern started (round abouts???) maybe this thread will help narrow that down ::shrug:: :mrgreen: ::tu::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:15 am
by jerryd6818
Josh -- I'm going to put up several that I think fit this thread. If you see one (or more) that you think are out of place, please let me know and I'll take them down.

I'm fighting a growing addiction to the Camillus 14. It's a Serpentine Jack that's 3¼" closed. For some reason, it just fascinates me.
Camillus 14 - Bone.JPG
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Camillus 14 Jack '60-'76 -- Open Mark.JPG

I think the Camillus 24 qualifies. Let me know what you think.
Camillus 24.JPG

How about this Case Texas Jack?
DSC05404.JPG

There are a couple more but they can wait.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:52 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
I may have one or two stuck some where, I'll see if I can "dig" them out for pics/post. JB that is a beautiful collection of S-jacks, love the colors on the scales. Nice showing Jerry. ::tu:: ::nod::

Rocky

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:07 pm
by royal0014
junebug wrote:........NOT THINKIN THERE IS ONE UNDER 3"
Me thinks this Colonial qualifies, 2 3/4 inches.
Sorry, I don't have a pic of it by itself :oops:
GEC-Colonial.jpg
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Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:10 pm
by jerryd6818
Royal -- That's some really nice company your Colonial keeps.



Trying to stay on topic: Josh -- Were you classifying all sub-three inchers as Peanuts? ::uc:: Inquiring minds want to know.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:45 pm
by orvet
jerryd6818 wrote:Trying to stay on topic: Josh -- Were you classifying all sub-three inchers as Peanuts? ::uc:: Inquiring minds want to know.
I think what he was trying to say; is nothing he posted in those pics were under 3".
But a serpentine jack in this topic can be any size. ::shrug::

Am I right Josh?

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:52 pm
by carrmillus
jerryd6818 wrote:Josh -- I'm going to put up several that I think fit this thread. If you see one (or more) that you think are out of place, please let me know and I'll take them down.

I'm fighting a growing addiction to the Camillus 14. It's a Serpentine Jack that's 3¼" closed. For some reason, it just fascinates me.
Camillus 14 - Bone.JPG
$_51.jpg
Camillus 14 Jack '60-'76 -- Open Mark.JPG

I think the Camillus 24 qualifies. Let me know what you think.
Camillus 24.JPG
...jerry, love that bone #14!!!......pretty sure mine is delrin(1960-1976)!!!............ ::tu:: ...............

How about this Case Texas Jack?
DSC05404.JPG

There are a couple more but they can wait.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:07 pm
by jerryd6818
Tommy, right now the #14s are really reasonable (in my mind). The bone handle cost me $20 shipped and that's the most I've paid for one, even in factory condition. Of course there isn't a great deal of variety so maybe that's why there doesn't seem to be much collector interest. They are a very pleasing knife in the hand.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:08 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
JB I dug up a few that might fit or may not fit this category ::shrug:: ...everything to me looks a little crooked now days. ::facepalm:: ::super_happy:: Rocky

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:25 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Jerryd just informed me I might have mixed in a few that don't belong ::paranoid:: . Sorry, it's gett'n harder and harder to tell which end is going up or down! Most times things are all point'n down!! ::uc:: ::dang:: ::undecided::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:32 pm
by Cutty
They seem to be A LOT of serps out there.

Lemme see if I have any ::hmm::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:41 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Sic 'em Cutty, Sic 'em boy! Can't wait to see what ya latch on to. Lolol 8) ::tu::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:01 pm
by junebug
::ds:: ::ds:: ::ds:: ::ds:: ::ds:: ::handshake:: ::handshake:: ::handshake::

you guys are doin PERFECT!!!! (as usual ::nod:: )

ROYAL- DIG THAT LIL FELLA!!!!! I THINK THAT FITS PERFECT!!!,i just dont own any that small YET :lol:
don't think thats a PEANUT, BUT A SMALL SERP JACK ::tu:: ::nod::

ORVET- RIGHT ON, MA MAN ::tu::

ROCKY- NO PROB.....i THINK MY "wording" above may have been to vague/ UNCLEAR....GREAT PICS TOO!

think were off an runnin' now boys n girls............. WOO HOO!!!! SHOW EM OFF!
AWESOME GUYS!!!!!!

I SO WANT JERRYS #14 (ONE ON TOP ::mdm:: ) ::facepalm:: ::ds:: 8) ........ OTHERS GREAT TOO ::nod::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:30 pm
by jerryd6818
Hammer Brand shell that I got for a dollar.
Hammer Brand Shell.JPG

Imperial 362 Diamond Edge
Imperial 362 Diamond Edge - Mark Open.JPG

Imperial 858 Diamond Edge (Bomb from 414 Mike. Thanks Mike.)
Imperial 858 Diamond Edge - Bomb 313Mike May '13.JPG
Imperial Shell
Imperial.JPG
And something I picked up today but won't have until sometime this week. Colonial Old Cutler (seller's picture)
Colonial Old Cutler.jpg

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:19 am
by Miller Bro's
Here`s one JB :wink:

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:31 am
by junebug
NICE,MB!!!
BUT AIN'T THAT A STOCKMAN :mrgreen:

WE'RE LOOKIN FER 2 BLADE SERP JACKS ::tu:: ::nod::
the ones with that same frame ::tu::

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:26 am
by orvet
Here are some old stock Imperial jacks I got at the OKCA show last weekend.
All are shell handles and will be in my store eventually:
Imperial fish b.jpg
I would think this would be classified as a serpentine jack. ::shrug::
Imperial jack b.jpg
Cute little guy and very sharp!
Imperial yellow jack b.jpg
This one is a bit bigger, also sharp!

I bought 2 each of these knives and when I sat at my table to look at them I thought they were rusted shut.
I finally got one open and realized the factory lube in the joints had dried out and set up like glue.
I put some 3 in 1 oil in them and it was thin enough to thin out the factory lube.
I cleaned them up when I got home and now they work great!



This last one is one I just shipped out to a friend who collects Schrades.
I had the pic handy so thought I would show it as well.
Schrade 893 a.jpg
The 893 was a non catalog item probably made for SMKW.
It was shipped to me in an 895 box. The 895 was a slim stockman pattern.

I have more serpentine jacks. I will post more pics as I find them.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:29 pm
by steve99f
Spent some of Saturday scouting for pocket knives and found this one. Nice sized Case knife. Can someone educate me on the difference between a serpentine jack pattern and a stockman pattern?

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:43 pm
by jerryd6818
steve99f wrote:Can someone educate me on the difference between a serpentine jack pattern and a stockman pattern?
Peas and carrots. Serpentine is a frame shape. A jack is usually considered a two blade knife with both blades on the same end. Most often a clip and a pen blade.

A stockman is a three blade knife, usually a large clip blade, sheepfoot blade and a spay blade.

This is a Serpentine Jack. Note how the handle kind of "flows", thus the serpentine (serpent / snake)
Camillus 14 Jack '60-'76 -- Open Mark.JPG

This is a classic stockman.
Puma Big Five Stockman.JPG

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:07 pm
by steve99f
Jerry,

Thanks for the explanation and the pictures. In looking at a few pictures and descriptions last night in Steve Pfeiffer's Case Knives book, it sort of seemed like the difference was square bolsters vs round ones. Your pictures do show a subtle difference in frame shape that wasn't apparent to me last night.

Steve

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:08 pm
by Cutty
yeah, kind of curves up at one end and down at the other.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:31 pm
by Jacknifeben
These are about as "serpentine" as you can get. Catt. 22039 and 22029.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:23 pm
by steve99f
I really like that top knife, the swedge on the spear looks so right. They are serpent like tho for sure.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:31 pm
by FRJ
Jacknifeben, what beautiful knives.

Great thread Josh.

Re: the SERPENTINE JACK

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:32 pm
by junebug
VERY NICE!! 8) 8)
SWEET SERP. JACKS ::nod::