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Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:07 pm
by brianv
I'm new here and this is my first post. I'm not really a collector. I've accumulated a number of knives but have settled on one very useful tool that suits me well. A yellow delrin medium stockman in CV.

I'm looking for a specific case knife. My dad had a case knife and I regret to say that I lost it. I'm looking for as close a knife to it as possible. As near as I can figure it was a Small Texas Jack Knife in brown bone and CV. I know for a fact that he had the knife in 1965 and I would assume he bought it in the 40's or 50's.

Any help in locating such a knife or close to it would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:13 pm
by orvet
Welcome to AAPK Brian! ::welcome::
I can't help you with the Case knife as I don't collect them nor know much about them, but someone here will know.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:29 pm
by brianv
Thank you orvet. The Willamette Valley must be beautiful now. I have been through there a few times.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:41 pm
by jerryd6818
Welcome to AAPK. Glad you stopped by. Is it safe to assume you've tried eBay?

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:48 pm
by brianv
No, I have not tried ebay.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:02 pm
by jerryd6818
There are currently 73 knives listed under "Case Texas Jack" -- http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_ ... acat=43328

and 22,000+ folding knives listed under Case. -- http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_ ... acat=43328

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:51 pm
by deo-pa
You might also try this Brian. Google "vintage case texas jack knife" and then click on "Images." It will bring up hundreds of photos you can scroll through. If you find something similar to your dad's knife post the picture here, maybe explaining how your dad's differed, and the Case guys will help you out. By the way, if you Google the alternate spelling of "jackknife" it will bring up some additional images.

Dennis

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:53 pm
by brianv
Thank you for your suggestions. I have looked at ebay but I've not found much and I don't know who the good sellers are.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:45 am
by zp4ja
Welcome to AAPK Brian!

I think we need to narrow down the frame/pattern first and then we can go from there. Although usefull, anyone can name a knife a Texas Jack on ebay. No offense to anyone that suggested that.

Nail down the frame/pattern first. Forget about bone color, etc, for now. Only trying to help. I may have a candidate for you, maybe not but not the purpose of my reply. I would like to assist if I can in finding a replacement for Dad's lost knife if I can.

So here are two of my EDC knives (not for sale) that I took a picture of just now. The "Texas Jack" as far as CASE is concerned is the 92 pattern at closed length of 4". There is a very similar shape frame. CASE 32 pattern that is 3-5/8" closed. The pictured knives are from 1965' to 1970'

Do they look similar to the knife you want? Do the markings on the blade tang look familiar?

Regards, Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:17 pm
by brianv
Thank you, Jerry! This is a huge help. I did searches on Google images and came up with every sort of Case knife regardless of what search parameters I put in. The small knife is the pattern I'm looking for. I remember it has a slight serpentine frame and the squared off bolsters. It also had the clip blade and the pen secondary. And both of your samples have the right shield. A version of the small one is what I'm looking for. Your pictures are a huge help. Thank again.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:34 pm
by brianv
I found the Case pattern reference pages! When I was reading the length of the Case 32 as 3 5/8's it seemed a little long. I'm now thinking that the Case 33 is more appropriate with a length of 2 5/8's small pen knife.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:45 pm
by brianv
I remember the knife being a jack knife rather than a pen knife but the frame was 2 5/8's. The tang stamps were just like the ones on your knives Jerry.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:54 pm
by zp4ja
Glad to help Brian. There are some other knives that may fit the bill. Biggest question...

Blades on same end (Jack) or blades on opposite ends (pen). The 33 only came as a two blade pen and a 3 blade Stockman. EDIT: Did not see your post, looks like you confirmed it is a Jack.

If it is a Jack and smaller, I think it may be a 6244 CASE knife. No ruler in this picture but significantly smaller at 3-1/4".

Let me know if this looks more like it. Also, does the stamp look like the pic if you recall?

Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:37 pm
by gino
WELCOME !
Is this the one your looking for
6232 3 5/8" closed

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:27 am
by zp4ja
Hey Brian,

Not sure that CASE made a jack knife at 2-5/8" that fits the description you gave. Also, not many sub 3 inch CASE jacks on top of that. Some but mostly bareheads or not fitting your description.

Would like to continue to help if I can. If the 6244 I posted at 3-1/4" I posted does not fit the bill, it may be of use for you to look at this post of CASE Jacks and maybe one of the pics will click as a possible match...

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... +or+better

Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:46 pm
by brianv
Jerry, thank you very much. The 3 1/4 would have to be it. I know it was small and very sure it was a jack knife.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:16 pm
by jerryd6818
At 3¼" the 22087 comes close. It doesn't have the square bolsters though and the one shown has stainless steel blades. I don't know if it comes in CV.


Jerry -- Thanks for the heads up on the 6244. That would go nicely with my small pile of 3¼" / 3-3/8" knives.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:22 pm
by jerryd6818
Just a thought for the grist mill. While it would be nice to find an exact duplicate of your dad's knife, it may not be absolutely necessary. He might be just as thrilled to receive something that fit the general specifications for his old knife. I.E. length, blade config., handle material & general shade of handle color. However, I do understand your drive to get the exact same thing but sometimes it's the act and the thought that fits the bill.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:38 pm
by zp4ja
jerryd6818 wrote:At 3¼" the 22087 comes close. It doesn't have the square bolsters though and the one shown has stainless steel blades. I don't know if it comes in CV.
Jerry -- Thanks for the heads up on the 6244. That would go nicely with my small pile of 3¼" / 3-3/8" knives.
Glad to help JerryD! Great little pattern. Pretty slim design in addition to shorter length compared to the bigger brothers I have shown on this post.
brianv wrote:Jerry, thank you very much. The 3 1/4 would have to be it. I know it was small and very sure it was a jack knife.
Hello Brian,

You are very welcome and glad to help! Are you pretty sure that the 6244 is the one? The 42 pattern is the smallest/shortest length that I know of that one may consider to be a Texas Jack. As I said, The 92 pattern is called that but one might call the 44 pattern a small Texas Jack based on shape.

There are only a couple of CASE Jacks that are smaller that come close to your description. One in particular but has more rounded bolsters. The 6227 pattern is 2-3/4" closed. Pretty much a watch or coin pocket carry in my opinion. Not for heavy duties by any means but still a fine little knife. take a look at the pics, please disregard the shield as these are delrin 1976' knives. I have a XX era somewhere. but just frame for now as I said before.

Whatever it ends up being as far as pattern, I will try to assist if you like with finding one. No dog in this fight or money made for me. I guess I am just a softie for helping someone replace a knife like Dad's. Done this a time or two before. Dad's knives or guns are a sacred thing to any son! Or you can find what you can on your own. Check out the AAPK stores also. So fine honest folks there.

Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:30 am
by brianv
Jerry, I don't know if this will help but after looking at the patterns I've come to the conclusion that the knife was either a Pen #33, a Jack #44. Your Jack 6244 looks particularly close. Thank you so much for all of your help. It really means a lot to me.

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:53 am
by zp4ja
brianv wrote:Jerry, I don't know if this will help but after looking at the patterns I've come to the conclusion that the knife was either a Pen #33, a Jack #44. Your Jack 6244 looks particularly close. Thank you so much for all of your help. It really means a lot to me.
Hello Brian,

No problem on the help my friend. That is what this forum is all about. Glad to help.

The 33 pen is a pretty damn small knife as I said. You mentioned Texas Jack, maybe your Dad referred to it as that. If so, based on length, I think your target knife is a 6244. Might be considered as a small Texas Jack to some as I stated.

It is always hard to tell without "knife in hand" as we say. Worst case, you pick up a 6244 and see if that jogs the memory. If not, pick up a 6233 pen. These knives will not set you back much cash wise. Less than 100 bucks dependent on era/year. Probably much less than 100 bucks dependent on knife condition. Either way, even if wrong, you have a couple of fine knives and we have narrowed the field if not a match for Dad's original knife.

Here is a picture of a 6233 pen next to an old quarter. Very small but cool pen. I carry this particular one often in the coin pocket.

Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:39 pm
by zp4ja
Hey Brian,

If you think the knife is a 6244, there is one here but the handle is Delrin, not Bone. Seller is good people for sure. In our own AAPK knife stores.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/aap ... ore_id=909

I can ask around if you like with my contacts to help you find one. Again, no dog in this fight except to help you find one. If I can find one, the rest is between you and the seller.
Looked on the web and surprisingly, not many or any in good shape at this point in time.

Best of luck. If you have additional questions, will try to help best I can.

If the knife you are looking for turns out to be a 6233 pen, I might have one for you.

Regards, Jerry

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:51 pm
by Elvis
Since one of the knives I have that belonged to my Dad is a XX Era Redbone 6333, the 33 model is one I've built a small collection of. Most of the 33's I've picked up are the 2 bladers of various ages and I also have a nice XX 6244 in Redbone that I carry sometimes. I'm out of town until early next week, but when I return I'd be glad to send you pictures of what I have and promise you a very fair price due to the sentimental value the knife would hold for you. Of course, no obligation on your part and no profit on mine. I'm just a sucker when it comes to sentimental knives and am more than willing to help if needed. Happy hunting!

Re: Looking for a specific knife

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:17 pm
by Elvis
Brian, I just wanted you to know that the offer I made was a sincere one. Whichever model of the two you decide it was that your Dad carried, I can sell you either at no profit to mysef simply because I know how important my Dad's knives are to me. No offense taken should you decide on another route. This is just me trying to help.