Factory rivet suppliers?

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:52 pm

I wonder if there is a supplier that might carry the rivets found on the case knives.

Do yall know of any?

I thought about using small brass tack threaded in from the back side and peened over on the front if i can not find any

Thanks

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:10 pm

there are many knife supply stores on line that carry full lines of nickle and brass rod in all the different sizes required. i have gotten excellent service from texas knife supply. jantz supply is another. you should use proper replacement pins for a better job.

http://www.texasknife.com/

http://www.knifemaking.com/

there are many more online if you use a search engine.

good luck and take pictures of your work.. before and after. oh yeah, and during.

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:35 pm

I know they have the rod and stuff. Texas knife is near my house. I've spent many a Saturday up there. They don't appear to have what i am looking for. Maybe i need to give them a call.

I'm talking specifically about the rivets used by Case (and maybe others) to fasten the scales to the liners.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:42 pm

they aint rivets. the different size rods are cut to size, then peened or spun. i would suggest a primer on knife repair. ben kelley's the complete book of pocketlmife repair or adrian harris' knife repair and restoration are two very good books.

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:10 pm

Jantz has a larger selection of pin stock including some metric sizes that may be close. You will need calipers to measure the diameter of the pins. Case pins for the most part are not a standard size and you may need to resize the pins a bit. Just chuck them up in a drill press and resize using a piece of sandpaper with a wood block backing while drillpress is running.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:49 am

Here is a discussion on peening.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... light=peen

Hope it helps,
Dale

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:12 pm

Take apart a new Case and you will see what i am talking about. This is NOOOOOOOTTTTTTTT a pin that has been peened. I have peened hundreds of pins, I know what they look like. Unless they have the most advance peening technology in the world that makes a perfectly flat and round head on one side and a hole in the other side. I guess i need to take a pic.

Thanks

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:00 pm

A pic would help.
I haven't worked on any new Cases.

Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:26 pm

wildcat these flat heads are accomplished by some mass producer for the case company, I know what you are speaking of, they used similar types of pins on schrade knives as well. They are indeed like a tiny cutlers rivit (female end)

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:30 pm

It's probably one of those deals where you have to buy 10 million rivets before they would sell any to you.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:06 pm

are you saying they are indented on the frame end to facilitate anchoring them to the frame or liner?

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:08 pm

yes, they are hollow on one end and i'm assuming there is a jig that reaches from the inside and speards the outside flat to hold it in.

i forgot to get a pic. i try to remember tomorrow.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:12 pm

i understand now. part of mass producing the knives. they don't seem to be made that way on the older knives. would be a time and effort saver. newer case handle material is thin and i suppose they could have them made to length for their application. different lengths would be required for different material thickness.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:29 pm

jantz supply carries cuttler's rivets.

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:39 pm

wildcat wrote:yes, they are hollow on one end and i'm assuming there is a jig that reaches from the inside and speards the outside flat to hold it in.

i forgot to get a pic. i try to remember tomorrow.

Yep, I'm afraid I'd need a picture as there are many kinds of rivets out there and I just can't picture it right now.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:35 am

wildcat wrote:yes, they are hollow on one end and i'm assuming there is a jig that reaches from the inside and speards the outside flat to hold it in.

i forgot to get a pic. i try to remember tomorrow.

Is this what you are talking about?
These are from some Schrades.

Dale

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:01 pm

okay, sorry for the loooong delay. I kept forgetting to take the pic.

this is it. kinda fuzzy, but you get the idea.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:49 pm

It looks like what you posted is the same as the ones I posted. Mine are still crimped down, holding the scale to the liner.

I think that type is just crimped to hold the scales on. Much easier to do by machine than peening a pin.

To answer your question:
No, I don't know where you can find them. I think it would be very easy to replace them with peened pin stock.

Hope this helps,
Dale