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Ga Red
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Tapering Holes

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How do yall taper the hole in the bolster for a front pin in a pocket knife.
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Welcome to AAPK.

I'm not a knife mechanic but I would think a light touch with a taper ball end mill might do the trick. Others may use different approaches to the task. There's one thing AAPK is not short on and that's opinions. Check back.
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Or a light touch with a Tapered Hole Reamer.
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Or the right size tapered broach. These are way too big but they make smaller ones. In fact if you give me the size of the hole, I may have one in the garage I'd send to you.
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I hope some mechanics will chime in as to their own methods. The most common tool I have seen thru research is a tapered reamer. I personally believe these remove a lot more material than you need to remove for a secure fit, and I have been looking for an alternative method/tool.

Like I said I hope others chime in because that tapered broach is what I've been looking for, I just never thought of it.
I think it may be the perfect tool JerryD! All you need is a few thousandths taper on each side (0.02.-0.03) for a secure "lock".
Thanks for posting this.
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Ken, I have a box of broaches of various sizes with several duplicates. If I don't forget, I'll go out to the garage tomorrow and see if I have any that are the appropriate size. Sure could use the pin size.
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I have never tapered a pivot pin hole. Peening the pin flares and expands the end to fill the hole completely and secure the pin tightly.
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I need it for 3/32 and 1/8 inch holes
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jerryd6818 wrote:Ken, I have a box of broaches of various sizes with several duplicates. If I don't forget, I'll go out to the garage tomorrow and see if I have any that are the appropriate size. Sure could use the pin size.
I appreciate that JerryD but no need. I'm not set up yet, and broaches are cheap enough for me to get thru my normal suppliers.
I realize that they are made for press cutting but I'm sure they will work. ::handshake::

Wayne,
I have learned that most knives do not use tapers on the bolsters, and from a manufacturing stand point I understand why.
From a mechanical perspective I see the benefit in tapering, and it is an approach I prefer to use when, and where I can.

While I do not plan to use most of the knives I will be repairing or rebuilding, I will be selling them as users or with the intent that they can be used, and I would sure hate to have pins slip or have blade wobble come into play on anything I worked on.
I believe that the one extra step of tapering a bolster is a virtual guarantee that this one potential problem can be avoided.
I know that most knives work just fine for decades with straight pins but I've broken a LOT of knives in my time, and blade wobble is the first thing that happens to mine.
Just my thoughts. ::tu::
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americanedgetech wrote:
I realize that they are made for press cutting but I'm sure they will work. ::handshake::
Don't know how you're applying "press cutting" but broaches are designed for torsional cutting. Stick it in the hole, apply appropriate pressure and twist. They're actually more for tapered pins but I think they will work just fine to make a slight conical shape at the top of a drilled pin hole. Improvise, adapt and overcome.
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jerryd6818 wrote:
americanedgetech wrote:
I realize that they are made for press cutting but I'm sure they will work. ::handshake::
Don't know how you're applying "press cutting" but broaches are designed for torsional cutting. Stick it in the hole, apply appropriate pressure and twist. They're actually more for tapered pins but I think they will work just fine to make a slight conical shape at the top of a drilled pin hole. Improvise, adapt and overcome.
"Stick it in the hole, apply appropriate pressure and twist."

That would be what I meant by "press cutting" ::tu:: :lol:
My entire life has been about improvising so that I can adapt to what I've had to overcome! :lol: :lol: :lol:
We're on the same page ::nod::
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