How would you classify this Camillus?

[Meridian_Mike]

Sorry guys....
I am still trying to learn the standard knife terminology. This one has 2 blades at one end and has equal size ends.
SO..... would this one be called an "equal end Jack" or am I totally off base?
Does the shape of the bolsters have any bearing on what you would call this one? The blade end is somewhat squared off but the opposite end is rounded.

From the tang stamp I would say this one dates to the 1941-46 period....
Anyway....

What y'all think?

Mike

[carrmillus]

.......that's what I would call it,mike!!........... .......................

[Meridian_Mike]

10-4.... Thanks!!

[OLDE CUTLER]

I see what you mean, the ends are not exactly equal. So calling it an equal end jack may not be correct. But the pins do not go through the bolsters, so maybe it should be called a tip bolster jack. The manufacturers seemed to be able to come up with knives that defied classification. Any way you look at it, it will be a nice old knife in your pocket after such time as it takes to clean it up and sharpen it.

[Meridian_Mike]

Ahhhhh..... yep, a "tip bolster jack"... you know, it does seem to define the above knife better.
Maybe that is what I am going to call it. AND yes, I will tote it.....LOL.

OK, so what happens if I add one blade at the opposite end?
(On this one the pins DO go thru the bolsters.)

would this be a stockman?

Mike

[OLDE CUTLER]

Ahhhhh..... yep, a "tip bolster jack"... you know, it does seem to define the above knife better.
Maybe that is what I am going to call it. AND yes, I will tote it.....LOL.

OK, so what happens if I add one blade at the opposite end?
(On this one the pins DO go thru the bolsters.)

Cam 1941-46_1.jpg

would this be a stockman?

Mike

If the blade you added as in the picture is an awl, then I would call it an equal end cattle knife.

[Meridian_Mike]

10-4... the awl would be for leather use so that would make it a cattle knife....

THANKS!!

Mike


It's a slow learning curve for me.... BUT, my Levines Guide is on the way. Lots of bathroom reading in my future.

[kootenay joe]

Quote: "the awl would be for leather use so that would make it a cattle knife...."
No. The equal end frame in this case makes it a Cattle knife.
You will understand all of this & more when you read Levine's book describing the evolution of every pattern of USA knife. German & European patterns are different.
The Camillus knife you present is one i have not seen before. It is rare and i do not know if it has a name.
kj

[Meridian_Mike]

Quote: "the awl would be for leather use so that would make it a cattle knife...."
No. The equal end frame in this case makes it a Cattle knife.
You will understand all of this & more when you read Levine's book describing the evolution of every pattern of USA knife. German & European patterns are different.
kj

LOL... yep, I best wait for the book before I make any more bold statements like the one above.....
I thought I was BEGINNING to understand until you straightened me out.... Oh well..... Onward!

Mike

[Meridian_Mike]

The Camillus knife you present is one i have not seen before. It is rare and i do not know if it has a name.
kj

Woah.... It's not like me to have anything rare....LOL. I usually just find old worn out knifes to play with.

Well, in that case.... maybe other folks will add to this discussion, (If I haven't messed it up too bad)

Mike

[kootenay joe]

Mike i too hope the more experienced collectors see this Camillus knife & comment on it. I am not with my Levine's Guide right now so i cannot look it up. There could be mention of this knife with the odd short & squared off front bolsters in there somewhere. Even though i have read through and referred back to LG4 hundreds of times i always find some fact or explanation i had previously missed,
I cannot understand why this pattern was made; what is the advantage of the 'front end treatment' ?
kj