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Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:19 pm
by East Branch Knives
Anyone have any thoughts on this Remington R415?
Here's the link to the listing - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-UMC- ... Swq2hemeSt
Here are the pics:
R415(black-1).jpg
R415(black-2).jpg
R415(black-3).jpg
R415(black-4).jpg

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:26 pm
by btrwtr
I think they should know better than to list junk like this.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:35 pm
by espn77
I agree, not much about that that looks Remington to me.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:57 am
by Berryb
So what's wrong with it? Thanks
Bruce

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:13 am
by espn77
Berryb wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:57 am So what's wrong with it? Thanks
Bruce
Not vintage pattern numbers stamp, not a Remington bail, to small of a easy open cut out, could be correct handles, as they used those type of handles, tang stamps look modern. Not much going for it that is right.
And a R415 should have pyremite handles with no bail.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:59 am
by btrwtr
I believe it is an Imperial brand knife with fake and poorly marked Remington blades. Nothing really Remington about it.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:08 am
by East Branch Knives
The Stewart and Ritchie book lists a R415 as having a bomb shield. That handle material kind of resembles the black composite I've seen on some straight line Remingtons, though I've never seen it peeling away that badly. The blades look new, despite corrosion on the tangs. The tang "stamps" look as though they were etched using a resist where the circle was drawn twice for some reason and the M in "made" is really wonky. The numbers are in a font I don't believe I've seen in any Remington number stamp, and I've never seen them that out of line/poorly spaced.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:28 am
by 1967redrider
The frame really looks like an Imperial, the pins and bolsters look like they match up perfectly. The number stamp looks like the original was ground off and then cold stamped individually. ::barf::

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:09 am
by espn77
East Branch Knives wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:08 am The Stewart and Ritchie book lists a R415 as having a bomb shield.
Shields in a book are not a true indicator of what should be on the knife. They used different shields in different era's and on contract knives. So just because the shield doesn't match the book that wouldn't authenticate or discount a Remington knife.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:45 pm
by kootenay joe
Does pyremite shrink ?
kj

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:12 pm
by espn77
kootenay joe wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:45 pm Does pyremite shrink ?
kj
It can but not always

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:52 pm
by East Branch Knives
espn77 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:09 am
East Branch Knives wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:08 am The Stewart and Ritchie book lists a R415 as having a bomb shield.
Shields in a book are not a true indicator of what should be on the knife. They used different shields in different era's and on contract knives. So just because the shield doesn't match the book that wouldn't authenticate or discount a Remington knife.
That's good to know, thanks for the info! For some reason I'd thought that the descriptions from the Steward and Ritchie book were direct from the catalogs, but it looks like the model descriptions in the catalogs I have (C30 and the 1936 Remington DuPont) don't say anything about shields. I wonder if Steward and Ritchie added that info based simply on the pictures.

Re: Remington R415 - thoughts?

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 12:07 am
by espn77
There book just lists "a" shield that was used but that doesn't mean exclusively.