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It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:57 am
by Mumbleypeg
Here’s another counterfeit Case Tested 5383.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-XX-TESTED ... Sw1A1f2UAy Note the shield which has the open C and “squatty” S which is indicative of U.S.A. and dotted era (1965-1979) knives, plus what appears to be Sambar stag which I’ve never seen on a Tested era knife.
If you read the seller’s description, this guy could easily be me. I bought a supposed Tested era 5383 in the early 1970s, with the same shield and similar Sambar stag, from a well known Tennessee dealer. Had it not been for Jim Sargent and Tony Foster telling me otherwise (and why), I too could be believing to this day the knife was legitimate. Here are the seller’s pictures
- Counterfeit Tested 5383
- Counterfeit Tested 5383
Interesting that the same seller has another 5383 which is a 10 dot (1970) version.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-XX-STAG-W ... SwzJZf18nn
It’s a legitimate knife. Note the picture of it shows the identical shield as his supposed “Tested” version, and similar stag. The two knives could have been made on the same day.
- Case XX U.S.A. Ten dots
Ken
Re: It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:10 am
by cudgee
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:57 am
Here’s another counterfeit Case Tested 5383.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-XX-TESTED ... Sw1A1f2UAy Note the shield which has the open C and “squatty” S which is indicative of U.S.A. and dotted era (1965-1979) knives, plus what appears to be Sambar stag which I’ve never seen on a Tested era knife.
If you read the seller’s description, this guy could easily be me. I bought a supposed Tested era 5383 in the early 1970s, with the same shield and similar Sambar stag, from a well known Tennessee dealer. Had it not been for Jim Sargent and Tony Foster telling me otherwise (and why), I too could be believing to this day the knife was legitimate.
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Interesting that the same seller has another 5383 which is a 10 dot (1971) version.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-XX-STAG-W ... SwzJZf18nn
It’s a legitimate knife. Note the picture of it shows the identical shield as his supposed “Tested” version, and similar stag. The two knives could have been made on the same day.
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Ken
What hope have us mere mortals got???
Re: It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:09 pm
by kootenay joe
Quote: "What hope have us mere mortals got??"
Plenty. If you want to buy a vintage Case knife buy from one of the AAPK members who are knowledgeable Case collectors. Or if you see a 'vintage' Case knife on ebay or elsewhere ask one these Case collectors to assess it for you.
kj
Re: It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:07 pm
by Mumbleypeg
“Mere mortals” can educate themselves before laying out their cash for expensive knives. A serious collector of older (especially often counterfeited brand) knives should invest a little of their money in some good reference books and study them. Then you’ll at least know what to look for.
Sargent’s American Premium Guide to Knives & Razors, Witcher’s
Counterfeiting Antique Cutlery, and Pfeiffer’s
Collecting Case Knives are a good start, all resources which were not available 45+ years ago when I bought my counterfeit Tested 5383.
And as Roland says, if you’re unsure ask before you buy.
Ken
Re: It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:35 pm
by 1967redrider
Re: It’s sad
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:01 pm
by CANTHOK
Thanks Robo--Great display of comparing these patterns--You guys are "awesome"!!!!~!!!!!!
