Did the Schrade Company own the name "Old Timer"?

[Meridian_Mike]

Good morning all....
I recently bought this axe head. It has the name "OLD TIMER" on it just above the maker name.

I posted this pic over in the area that has axe discussions. The question was ask.....

"It raises the question how long ago did Schrade register their trade mark?"

This made me wonder.... Was the name "OLD TIMER" owned by the Schrade company?

Does anyone have any insight into this issue?
Thanks guys!!!

[cody6268]

Did some searching online. Looks like Schrade/Ulster registered the trademark in 1958, and it became official in 1960.

https://www.trademarkia.com/old-timer-72097490

PS: Never heard of this "AOB Products" company. I guess Taylor was sold to BTI, who in turn sold out to Smith and Wesson. Apparently, American Outdoor Products was a spin-off of S&W in 2020.

[Modern Slip Joints]

I suspect Mike's axe head was forged before Schrade laid claim to the name Old Timer.

I can only read the first and last letters in the manufacturer's name: Kell ... son Co. Can you fill in any more?

It may only be a coincidene but Diamond Tool And Horseshoe was forging in Duluth Minn. After too many of their customers switched to horseless carriages they added wrenches to their product line. More recently made tools do not even have Horseshoe in the name. IIRC the company was sold in 1972. I have a few Diamond adjustable wrenches and one of their hatchets. Maybe Diamond forged Mike's axe?

[New_Windsor_NY]

I.....

Kelley-How-Thompson Co.

[Modern Slip Joints]

It did not take long to learn Kelley How Thompson Co. was founded in the 1890s in Duluth to sell tools and hardware to the logging industry. I did not find anything suggesting they manufacturered anything.

[ea42]

It did not take long to learn Kelley How Thompson Co. was founded in thec1890s in Duluth to sell tools and hardware to the logging industry. I did not find anything suggesting they manufacturered anything.

Probably made by Collins or J.H. Mann, late 1800's (I'm referring to the axe).

Eric

[LRV]

In 1873 R. A. Costello opened a tin shop on North First Avenue East. The tin shop burned and the business moved to Superior Street. Costello sold the business to his brother, J. J. Costello, but reentered the firm in 1887 and operated it as the J. J. and R. A. Costello hardware store for the next seven years. The Costellos bowed out in 1895 when controlling interest went to Mike H. Kelley and J. F. Killorin, Duluth lumbermen. They changed the name to Kelley Hardware Co. In 1902 D.W. How joined the company and the store name changed to Kelley-How. It was this organization that set up the Kelly-How-Thomson wholesale hardware company, operating the store as a retail branch. The retail store remained a unit of the wholesale house until 1928, when it was acquired by E. A. Bergeron and renamed Kelley-Duluth Hardware Company. Marshall-Wells bought out Kelley-How-Thomson in 1955 with Kelley-How-Thomson continuing under its own name as a subsidiary of Marshalls-Wells. In January 1958 Kelley-How-Thomson consolidated with Marshall-Wells, becoming Marshall-Wells-Kelley-How-Thomson. In December 1958 Coast-to-Coast Stores of Minneapolis bought Marshall-Wells-Kelley-How-Thomson Duluth Division.
https://archives.lib.umn.edu/repositori ... urces/8573

[Meridian_Mike]

Great info!!!

It appears this axe head is going to precede Schrades use of the name "OLD TIMER" .